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Thanks you, gentlemen. Welcome back to on the mic with M and T. Listen y'all before we start anything. Thank you. I want to thank you guys because right, now we have 400 subscribers on YouTube.
M:We're on that Six Katie or something in IG. We're blowing up like a fat kid in cake and I appreciate, I Appreciate it because, david, we have been, we're putting in that work. We put that work for almost put, almost two years. Yeah, put in that work and we're finally getting people to see it. We get in all kinds of great comments. We're getting all kinds of everything.
M:great comments, yes, yes, no, no, you don't, no, no, no, you don't. And keep doing it. We want to. We want to hear all that, because that's how we will help you guys and what you're doing, because this, this is what this, this channel, is all about Overcoming to becoming again. It's gonna be hard work, it's gonna take a little stress on your end, but nothing is done easy. When you're trying to become the best version of who you are, it's never, never, easy.
M:So just sit back, listen to us, take notes. You know, keep giving us those suggestions and telling us you know what you love and basically been telling all that you love and that we're gonna blow up and all that, and we damn sure Appreciate all of that. You know, and I want to say that, before we even get started and continue to do it, we got a lot of great things, but that's what next week to talk about. All the other great things is gonna happen next year. So, right now, we're just gonna start with hmm, we're gonna talk about catwimps, yes, and we're gonna put a twist on it because Everybody, as you know, everybody want to talk about the people that he talked about.
M:Yeah, that that part, and what we're gonna talk about is. We're gonna talk about the gossip you part too, but more importantly, we're gonna talk about how that actually ties to people's everyday life, because, believe it or not, people live this. They're laughing oh, I can't believe, can't sit there about Steve Harvey, but if you think about it, you get the same issue with your sister or your work within the workplace, because this is some things that you kind of see it in different industries.
T:Right, You're trying to move up in you know the financial industry or you know health industry. You know there's different industries. You'll see those clicks of people as you get higher and higher up, or those different networks, yeah, absolutely so.
M:It's not. You know it was. It was a lot great information. You know, and I don't even care if it's a lot or not, it doesn't even matter. At this point, the responses are unique, because think about it, think about it. If someone, if, if someone, a lot about you, you gonna come out like that motherfucker line hey, I don't really talk about, we did this, this, this didn't do that. Everybody's like he got fake fenty on. You know he, he didn't look like he was high that day, or All these other stuff that you're like wait a minute, wait a minute. Still, you seen this motherfucker's line. You gonna talk about what he's wearing or other situations and you want to hide behind other people, which begins to make me think that he may be telling you the truth and some things.
T:I just think that there's always gonna be, like those group of people who look out for each other, right, like it's human nature, right yeah the only thing I think he really was highlighting is that you don't have to try to pull someone else down in order to look out for the people who you are trying to look out for absolutely. I'm definitely make sure. I make sure my family.
M:Yes.
T:I'm gonna do that, absolutely gonna do that. But I think that bigger point being made is that don't you don't have to step on people, and you certainly don't have to try to Step on the small people, thinking that they'll never get big Mm-hmm, I think that was a big piece that he was, you know, trying to highlight is that you thought that I would never get to the Place where you were at, or I would never surpass, you know, the position that you're in, and so that's why you were willing to step on me.
T:Absolutely so when you see people in the workplace or just beginning that entry level and you're well willing to, you know, deceive them or, you know, take from them. So like stepping on them right, stopping them from progressing in that workplace and then give them a year or two or a few years in the next thing, you know they come shooting past you but they're not gonna try to help elevate you on their roads. It's success now because they see who you are.
M:That tea. That is very true. When I started working so many years ago, I was always at that. I do never want to do what someone else did. I need to understand what the hell I was doing or I'm supposed to do, because if I do I'm supposed to do, then that means they'll trust me with any other stuff, because, example, nowadays a lot of young people want to come in and work and want to make your money.
T:Oh, I get what you're saying Before you walk before you run again.
M:I don't mind and I'm a minority, because a lot of people don't want to help anybody because if you help them, then that means you're gonna take your job.
T:Oh, you know cuz in the hair world they think that we all compete against each other, like it's just like we're gonna run out of here to do why we compete in the get. See, there's a lot of heads out here y'all like, wow, they're done. Yeah. One person said I don't want to technically compete against each other. No, we all get money together. We train together, we grow together, we learn together. We get money together. Wow, it is successful together. We're okay with that, wow.
M:That, that's that that I can see that because again, you think you doing hair, who's the best hair stylist? And you want to be the best because you see I'm the best hair, I'm a best lactician. Oh, by the way, people, the best lactician is T God. They see how her hair flows, will? Nice Producer, everybody here from. So rocks, she's the king, she's the queen of lock. Yes, I'm just throwing a little plug out there, but you know, just in general, like in business.
T:Yeah, I can't do all the lock, so just jump in there, right? I can't do them all, see absolutely.
M:You all break you right, so you have great time here yeah absolutely.
M:Yes yeah, and you know a lot of people think that you know I'm supposed to just, you know, keep this person down. I'm, I was never about that. My thing is I want to be able to teach you so you be able to do this, because down the road, if you're doing this, you don't remember me, because you can say I remember him, he helped me do this, this, this and this, and that's my legacy carrying on, because I don't talk this person, I'm not. I'm never gonna be scared somebody else, cuz you never know as much as I know, and I'm not gonna hinder your growth Because I'm paranoid about you gonna take my job. It was meant to meet bees, meant to be anyway, because, again, you know you can kiss enough ass over.
M:Another thing people don't kiss ass. Kiss ass will run your ass out to do a cricket to anything else and people think that you walk in, you find smile Big, I'm gonna kiss the ass and they gonna help me go to the top. You know, do you keep using you until you're not usable anymore and then you'll kick your ass aside and you'll take that Little guy who's quietly doing his work and moving up slowly up the corporate ladder and he'll be taking your job because that guy knows this guy who's been trained, who's doing his job, it's gonna make me look good and make the company look good. You kiss my ass was good to a point, but now you kiss my ass is not gonna get me where I need to get to in your hindrance now. So people need to learn that stuck his people's ass. Learn your job, learn what you want to do or what you're trying to do, and learn that way.
Mac Da Don:I think you can kiss ass. I don't even want I do what better. I disagree with you fully. I think. Ask us to do better than people who just grind and get the work done, because ask cases are in corporate space time times on time. See you constantly. If you're really doing your work, let's see. Let's just take business right.
Mac Da Don:I just take regular business. You're doing your work. Your head is constantly now getting things done. What people fail to realize is that when you do grind and you do keep your head down, nobody sees what you're doing. So you can be doing a lot, you can be doing a little. Think about how many people you work right below the side that you're like. How the fuck does no one know this nigga? Don't do work every day, hey every day is a show up.
M:You come to work, ask me hit on the fucking table all day, yep.
Mac Da Don:Come five o'clock he gets the fuck up. So who knows what's good in that. I'll catch y'all later. And yeah, every month I look at our big account and both of them got to save money.
T:Fuck all that. We're here, we're talking about it.
Mac Da Don:Let's talk about the space.
T:I'm thinking more like you keeping your integrity, you growing professionally. You are networking, you know you just keeping yourself like you don't have to kiss ass to get up the ladder. That's where I took what you were saying.
Mac Da Don:I think you got to kiss a little bit of ass, just a little bit.
T:I feel like you got to kiss a little bit of shaft thicker.
Mac Da Don:Just a little bit. You ain't got it. Nah, here's what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, you know you don't want to kiss somebody's ass with no fans. You got to kiss a little bit of ass. I think the thing is you have to understand that there's ass kissing and then there's honestly let's call it spacebate. There's ass kissing and dick sucking.
T:There's only two ways to go about this. I said it, he's back.
Mac Da Don:I'm not leaving you, I'm not leaving you, I'm not leaving you. I've been there a couple of months. I'm back now, yep yes, welcome yes. And a lot of cases. What we really talking about is dick sucking.
M:That's what we call it. That's a fair. That's a fair, yes, that's a fair, yep.
Mac Da Don:You can kiss a little bit of ass. You know, you know miss such a sense. Like you know, I really love how you're running things around here. You know I really feel grateful working for such a wonderful owner like you. You know People that work that might get you into a woman that you ain't supposed to be in.
M:Yeah, okay.
Mac Da Don:What you need to do is not Slam or somebody's not, bro, like be better.
M:That is a very goddamn good point, because the other thing people have to understand is wherever you are, however, you start people move up. So if people know that you start off as a ass kisser, then you start slob in the knob and they start moving up above you. Then they realized, oh, I was here when this motherfucker started kissing ass. Now he's doing what he's doing now. I will make sure he'll never get here, because I know he didn't put the work in, he didn't. He's that. He's that qualified to be here.
M:Because, no, we don't respect them. So again, this is what people need to realize. It's like when you go into something you have to, it's on your own marriage. You got to all our guys, me and, and if they accept me or don't accept me, now Quite feel more, except you, cuz some people thrive off, I ask kisses To arrive off of it. In fact, you only move up unless you kiss ass, because expect you this like make them feel good, feel their ego, make it feel good about.
Mac Da Don:The tradition, in the culture, in the workplace kiss ass move up, or maybe they just like having a ass play with like we don't know, feel like, oh, I really want to be a boss, so people could just like suck up to me, yep, I mean.
M:That's the damn truth as a collective that is very man, this motherfucker.
Mac Da Don:Only thing they really want is just kiss the ass. That's all they want. You don't do a fuck. Work hard.
T:I'm sorry.
M:You're blessed and lucky and I met him. I still won't kiss the ass Because my thing is, motherfucker, I'm here to do a job. I'm not here to make you feel good about yourself. He lunch with you, talk about, listen your problems, fuck you in your problem. Let me get paid. My paycheck is I get paid based off what the fuck I do not. Performance is it and I. That's our problem. So now I don't do a fuck if you're 18 or 80, if your ass can't do the job, I will fire your ass on a drop of a dime.
M:We need bad eye. I wouldn't, my mom, my kids, I'm fuck about your kids, they your kids, they mind. If you did your job, I would have to fire you. The worst thing is to fire somebody who's doing a fucking beautiful job but financially you can't keep them and you just try to dance around how you can keep them. But you got to bring them in there. No, they got kids and shit. That's. That's a different thing and that always bothers me. I've got my kicks off. Fine, motherfuckers, I fly him in. Yep, just come on to the office. They coming off, sit down. I get the little chair for him. Sit your ass in that little chair. Why don't you just don't worry about that, mom, forgive me here long enough in the room. Sit that little chair and then we're starting lamb based the fucking ass like a turkey or on Thanksgiving. Get the fuck out of here.
M:Who she did. But do you hide? You hide me on other people, but again I look for people like that. I know where you hiding, I know what you're trying to do. So again, once you understand that a you're not gonna survive long term and a lot of places being that way and this.
T:This speaks to your ethics and morals, right, yeah, it speaks to your ethics and morals, which you know spend right back to the interview, keeping up. I'm not willing to sacrifice certain things and and your regular workplace and your regular life experiences. It's like keeping those morals intact go a long, long way.
Mac Da Don:And I think, to combo on what you just said, the next half of that sentence is and accept the fact that it might cause you more headache, except the fact that you might.
T:It's okay with that, but you have to understand that that's.
Mac Da Don:The true size of that is that you can stand up for yourself and say I won't do, there's nothing wrong with that. But it's also accepting the fact that when you say you won't do that people will retaliate in that when people retaliate, except the fact that, because I'd be the same for myself, they're going to do something to me, about me, around me, whatever against me something and except that that's what's gonna happen.
Mac Da Don:Is it fair? No, but they spent you to fall in line. You chose not to fall in line. You put in the military. I don't know why somebody doesn't fall in line. He doesn't look at you like oh man, you cool Shit. Who can't you fall in line? No, everybody won't laugh. You all couldn't do that too much is why Because that nigga didn't fall in line. Sometimes you standing up for yourself means you probably gonna get other people around you fucked over, except that in be honest with yourself, that like, if something does happen, it is probably my fault.
M:Yeah, yeah, very true. And then you have to understand the other thing we decided to kiss the ring. There's no coming back. Hey, think about it when you decide it, when somebody says, listen, you kiss the ring, you get 20 million dollars a year, but you understand that everything I tell you to do, you have to do. There is no, I don't want to do that. No, no, no. When you kiss the ring, everything that goes with kissing the ring is what you have to accept, which means now they've bought and paid for you. You made a deal with the devil and now your integrity is you don't have any no, you don't have any, it's done.
M:Done and you walk around all wherever you are, knowing you know. Maybe I nobody else may not know, but you know I don't. So my goddamn ass to the devil, goddamn.
T:So what does that look like in regular world?
M:Oh, that's when you see people do things For balls or people who was above them that you like. Why the fuck is he always going to buy lunch for him? Why the fuck do you be good shopping for him? Why the fuck they always in a meeting? Why the fuck y'all?
Mac Da Don:because that's the personal assistant that doesn't even work as a personal assistant. Hello, yes.
T:Oh, the boss with perks, with too many perks, yes, you see me in poppy and boss's car.
Mac Da Don:Boss puts on my son. Oh, you know I need you. What made next? You know you doing copies at 445 in the morning. Why are you doing copies of 445 in the morning? I'll say, feel like doing this. I figured I helped out. It is still things that you might even realize that you, that you slipped into that role, look how people slip into that role, like you go to be that the ass kisser, and then next you know, there's a little pecker in your mouth.
T:He realized it's true.
Mac Da Don:Right, yeah, absolutely, it happens subtly and then only unless you really start paying attention, you know. Next, you know, you're like damn, got a little bit of my mouth Asks. I've known that Tejik ask us. They know. Okay, this guy needs just this amount of ass kissing to allow me to get past him. Like, almost like they treated like a Networking or Networking. I look at it like a Mortal Kombat tournament, total, like you sit there and as you finish them, you know you up to the next ball.
M:And that's what it was.
Mac Da Don:I get about a cigarette knock. Here's the next person. Now, what is this guy? Oh, he needs this. Okay, I need him a little bit of that, all right past him now.
T:What's the next guy?
Mac Da Don:and that's how they move. They, strategically, are kind enough for people to get just a little bit past them so they can now say, okay, now I don't need to worry about you, and now I'm also the next person and you keep kind of finessing your way up the chain. There are people who can do it successfully and always avoid it. Some people are trying to do it in our belt for it.
M:Yes, because that's a different game.
Mac Da Don:That's a different mindset in a different game.
M:And you don't know, because if you come to the table, you don't know how that table was set up, because you come, I would see at the table. Yes, you do, but you understand what's going to take you to stay at this table and that's going to be like are you willing To do what needs to be done to stay in that seat at the table? Because if you're not, that somebody else will. Just 30 people behind you that would do what you won't do being questioned?
T:Yeah. Now it's time to pick and choose.
M:And now, what do you do?
T:What do you do?
M:about choices yes, some good, some bad.
T:It's up to you to choose, though, but you're gonna have to sit in those choices that you've made.
M:And a lot of people don't realize that and that's kind of what you know. My man was saying is, like you know you can always Talk, you punch easy to punch down to people because you know they don't threat, until that person you're punching down Starts to be at your level and higher Absolutely. And now you're scared Like, oh shit, I mean my punch down his ass. Oh, she had my level. Now you, they won't be my friend. Now you know he's, that person should know you can't be my friend. I remember what you did to me. I won't forget it. In fact, I use that for fuel to get me to where I'm at and get further, and a lot of people think that, oh, they'll forget. Or you know, you know, if I give him a few dollars or do something for him, no, you, don't try to smooth it over.
Mac Da Don:Honestly, the scariest thing is the one who you punch down on, who treats you like a best friend. Oh, if you, if you've never Experienced or never been in either one of those seats, avoid that at all possible. It's at all possible. Never punched down. If you punched down and that guy you punched out on stands up and is now next to you and he's like buddy that's. Believe he's playing on silly or silly or silly, but believe you gonna be sitting there like Abe Lincoln at the damn parlor. You gonna be sitting there like the boy from Game of Thrones at his wedding. You gonna be sitting. That's a wrap. That's what I know. He's gonna kick you out. Yes, because what else is he? Why is he smiling? Why are you friends?
T:We are arch-nemists, that's just what.
Mac Da Don:I'm talking about. Yeah, that is an odd smell in your eyes, friendly we are friendly and I'm gonna wait for you to do something.
T:You explained just what you described. Just reminded me of children and adults. Right, how you treat children when they're young and then when they grow up and they be looking at you sideways as an adult and you be like I don't know why little Johnny don't like me. You're like bitch cause you was mean to me back when I was 10, you rude ass disrespect. That's how you treat children. You know like the kids remember like my dad didn't come around or the dirtbag. Moms like these kids are not gonna forget.
M:They never forget.
T:You don't treat children like shit, because at that point you know they're the people on the down, they're the small people, they're the little people. But those little people are guaranteed to grow up. Yes, they do. They're not corporate America. No, those people at the bottom are not gonna stay there. They're children, yeah, guaranteed to grow up, and you're gonna be held accountable for the things that you did to them.
M:And you know, when the old people found that really out, truly found that out when they get old. Yeah, because my wife used to work years ago at a nursing home and I remember one day she said, hey, all these old people here. They said, look at the door, and it's sad how they look at the door and nobody comes in, just sitting in the hallway just waiting. I said, babe, here's the thing, all those old people, you see, there's a story behind them. Yep, there's a reason why they're sitting there looking at the door that will never open for them. Yep, because they probably done some fuck shit to their kids or bring people up. They don't cause I ain't fuck with you now. You're right where you should be and it's not just men.
M:No, it's both.
T:We wanted to run with the idea just of men sitting up beside the nursing homes, you know, withering away by themselves cause they weren't good people. It's both.
M:It is. It's both, and especially the women who think they did a great job, or pretending they did a good job just so they can function, but they did a number on their kids. Fuck them, kids up.
T:No, those daughters are not showing up the sons.
M:Mm no.
T:You wanted to treat the wives like crap, right? No, the family's not coming to see you when you are old and no abilitated up inside the nursing home. They're not. Nobody cares, Cause you're rude, you're disrespectful. Yeah, you wanted to treat people like crap. You wanted to take other people's situations and make it your own. Yes, yes.
M:Yes. That shit is not your shit lady and you want choice of men. Well, he's gonna be between you, her, that husband you married, or me, your mom who had you and it suckled you and not your mom Remember the one where the mother didn't want to be in the back seat.
T:I think it was a skit. And I think lady, you're not, come on, Come on, you're not fighting these people. They're gonna take care of you later.
M:Oh, you would hope they take care of you later.
T:You better hope they're designed to, but they don't have to.
Mac Da Don:Because one thing what I never understood, though, before we pivot is the parents, obviously parents who choose to despise their children's spouses and then be surprised when, like oh man, shit fell apart now my kid not showing up.
T:Like you can't get a spouse, you can't be surprised. Why are you so proud? Why are you so proud? Why?
Mac Da Don:are you just caught? You're own guard Like listen, child, I know you found somebody who you love so you're scared enough to get married, but fuck that nigga yeah.
T:Like, how do you think that's gonna work? We get the same energy. Yeah, you're just showing the Christmas spirit. You're just showing the Christmas spirit. Thanks, david. I like kind of this house, don't come over here, go talk to me.
Mac Da Don:Now, next to you know your back you get a back injury. Next to you know you're gonna end up talking about yourself. My y'all never wanna come and check over you. You know I hurt. Yeah, you know I love you.
T:Yeah, no cause. My wife wants to go see her mom on the same day that she wants to come see you and you never liked her. Yeah, Remember that it's rough coming down there mom.
M:Yes.
T:Nobody wants to come to a rough situation on a Sunday afternoon, just so we're clear. It's too heavy, it's too heavy.
M:It really is, and nobody seems to think about that. All you wanna do is to use the obvious I'm your mama. You should do this, okay, mama? Fine, dandy, look at the Bible, the Bible that you go church to every Sunday, and look at it you have to refer to Every time there were epithecies, the third chapter, 44 verse. But put that goddamn shit. Now it told you in that Bible somewhere that once I married my wife we are now one. You see that.
T:Nah, she missed it, no purpose.
M:Yeah, she don't wanna talk about that. What?
Mac Da Don:if she don't even know what that look like.
T:Oh, she was skipping, she was.
Mac Da Don:She was flying around the Bible. You know, it's a lot of ages you gotta let your skin bleed. She was flipping through it. All right, I read pages one through seven. Now I start on page 11 with the page set 15. It was just a lot of good going.
T:I get the punch when she's trying to say but it's true, that's true, that's a lot of words, that's it. They miss a lot, you know. But yeah, it just doesn't make sense. It's like you, the person up top, you know, because of how the family is set up, right, you're the grand. Absolutely so you a little bit higher up. So for you to be binging down and hitting on you know the spouse who's the new person to enter into the family is like that's not right.
T:I was like I'll work out for you later on in life. Man.
M:You should be as a grandma, as someone who's an elder, we should come to you for wisdom and guidance and understanding. I know people personally no people who couldn't stand that grandparents In fact got to a point where they say let's go to dinner oh shit, she's still living. Oh shit, literally. Yes, she's still living, god I am.
M:She was such a critical person that every time they came around it was either you know, baby, you married, you still fat, they mean everything is small and they want you because you ugly, and so again, you know it's all sudden the best talk about kind of crazy shit to you and now you going to take this shit my mama used to bring me to. I had no choice. I was 10. I'm 45 years old. I don't need to come fuck to fuck with you, no more.
T:And 45 still, grandma.
M:Oh, I don't have a grandma like that, thank goodness, and nobody should have a grandma like that, because that's fucking rough. And when I got you.
Mac Da Don:So a friend of mine, his grandmother's still alive. She had a couple of health issues recently, but you know she's still up. But here's the dating that's gone for the better part of a year and a half, almost two years, and so I asked him. I said, hey, you know, has she met your family? He said, oh yeah, you know, we've met each other's families. You know we've hung out, you know, done dinner and shit like that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He's. So she's pretty much everybody. But my grandmother and I was like, hmm, I said she, she, that's the only person you think she's ever met. Yeah. And I say, uh, is she not admittable to your girl? Does she not like your girl? It's the girl of the same race.
T:That's the problem. Yeah, no, Grandma's before the lot.
Mac Da Don:Grandma, grandma, races, yeah, no, no. That's the problem, that's the culture, your grandmother came from?
T:No, it doesn't matter.
Mac Da Don:I'm sorry, there's a lot of grandmothers that are just.
T:You know, they're a lot of races, but just like a little bit. Yeah, he was like.
Mac Da Don:I don't want to put an unnecessary strain on my relationship. He said introduce her to my grandmother. And then she said so I should all of a mouth in there. Now I gotta fight the pill. You can see me that I haven't met her stepfather. We're different races, so he don't like people who like me and my grandmother just don't let it like nobody else. Wow, so they have made it a conscious choice between each other. I'm not going to meet your father, you're not going to meet my grandmother. We cool, wow, yeah, I'm cool with that, you're cool with that.
M:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Mac Da Don:That's a trade-off Like how do we mitigate this? And I was like, yeah, you can introduce her, but I'm like I don't know how I'm going to disrespect your grandmother because you're going to die tomorrow. Yeah, that's true, Right. Just because she's had health issues, she's older, but what you don't want to do is introduce her to your girl Now. You, y'all let's see y'all in a bit marry that five-year-old, she won't even buy you a grandmother.
Mac Da Don:You know, they never liked it. She always thought she was shit or that. One time she met her she called her a insert thing here, and now she met that's true.
M:And now you say the old grandmother.
Mac Da Don:This then yes, this. Then she got, she got caught in the hook. No roses, no more. But yeah, now you're every day start over because of one decision to introduce grandmother because she's important to me. She's got my other brother and sister spouses? Yeah, but your brother and sister spouses look like your brother and your sister. You're the one who won't go outside and find the other.
M:Yeah, well, you found you got the other guys for other come with yeah. You got the other comes with yes. That's a virtue statement, that's fair. So you got to be very, very careful about all that. You know and you know.
T:It could also be the economic classes.
M:Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yes, yes.
T:Don't try to mix those two easily and just all willy nilly like that just slides over too easy.
M:It doesn't, it don't, it doesn't, it really don't.
T:Some families do not play that. No, excuse me, who you brought up in here? No, where you know them from, I don't know you won't.
M:But I love her mama. Come on now. No, I was loving the world, I mean we. You find her from what? What? Southwest, Southwest, East, South, Southern?
T:I don't give a damn. Get out of here what they said on the bottom. You said your girlfriend in here. No manners, it's bourbon. No, no class joints, uh-uh.
M:D.
T:Some people not doing it.
M:No.
T:So, yes, the races and the classes, you gotta be careful.
Mac Da Don:Oh, I just feel like it, you should do your family.
T:Like you know you know, right, you just try them Right. That's my thing. I gotta know the family.
Mac Da Don:Don't, don't, don't say it's just your sponsor for family. Yeah, you know your family, one of them people that up and he's all like, oh, get out. And I get the mentality of like, okay, I don't want to hide my spouse from my family because they're like I love my spouse and like my family might be critical of him, and so, you know, let's just a spouse fight. But, like you know, I was just bought. I had to come in there and I think I was fighting. Hey, let's say I fuck around me. Yeah, white girl, mm-hmm, and like we cool, all right, I'll put your house. And you got your grandfather still alive, your great grandfather still alive.
M:It was in the fucking war it was they had niggas, I'm going to be no better.
T:I said the conversation, I got ahead, not a familiar house. Hey, let me talk to you.
Mac Da Don:No, what's your name? Come in, boy. I'm looking at the old ass man who can't even. You're in a wheelchair with some oxygen. Tell him I said come here, boy. If I pitch your shit we'll blow it If you really see a light.
T:you call an e-boy Because you set me up to say I'm looking for your house and I got to fight.
Mac Da Don:And now, just what's going to happen now when we get home? You and I got to fight. Yeah, because you set me up.
M:You knew that was going to happen when I came to your house.
Mac Da Don:I thought there was going to be an other day on the best dance. Assume your family's going to be the niggas that you see every day.
T:Sometimes that love high make you think certain things don't work, that's not going to work, and sometimes introducing them to the family might be one of them. So just sometimes, I don't know, there is a little bit of a high that comes with the love. That makes you a little bit delusional, just a little delulu.
M:I feel you. But there's a point. Will you know, your family's I'm going to use the word dysfunctional At some level dysfunctional.
T:You've normalized it, don't forget that. So you don't actually know, because it's your normal.
M:It's your normal. But you know that touch by angel, you know, you know they're a little touch.
Mac Da Don:If you could look so familiar and, objectively said, like if somebody was to come from the outside of him, I had me right now. They would find ABCDE dysfunctional.
T:Yeah, legistically speaking, you didn't know. Look at outside of him. But that's my family.
Mac Da Don:He's like, what the shit we deal with, yeah? And I was like, look, if I met somebody, they were like oh, my brother, my sister, me, my health, I need to go over here. That's weird to me. I don't have brothers and sisters. So me saying, okay, I get one day, you know, I'll get off my parents too, you know. You say, you say my brother's sister called, my brother's wife called and she had with the kids. So I'm going to go over there tonight. What? Let me take a little kiss, I'm going to be with my brother out on vacation.
Mac Da Don:Okay, well, she signed up to me. With the niggas who go on vacation, I'm going to buy a car Now you got to go out there and help her, but that's what no one for people is Like. Oh, I should be able to call my, my, my sister in law.
T:She come over here and help take care of the kids. Yeah, I'm like I need to get some kids. I don't know that. No, don't say fuck that, Cause we need help. Say up see. Say up see. So it's just little shit like that, yeah, girl.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, some people love having a family over there yeah. Every Sunday we all get together and we do family dinner. You're not used to that. Come on Sunday you watch football, exactly you never have a family.
M:Come here, I'm trying to get some of this.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, you sit in here all of a sudden.
M:Mama, sister, brother in law, Come here. Where the fuck are they?
Mac Da Don:coming from we're talking we're talking.
M:Stop by and pick up something going back home.
T:No, I'm like this is red zone on yeah.
Mac Da Don:No, we don't watch the red zone. No, it's kind of decent. We just say, like I get to sit here and yell for my team. Now I got Aussie sitting there talking about so why is being key change Cause?
M:he's red zone.
Mac Da Don:Red zone means that, means every it's seven hours of commercial free. You know what I'm saying? Shit.
T:No, I'm not, I'm just saying why you doing this. I'm just saying why you doing this, you're not saying anything Come here Come here.
M:You're not saying anything. You're mad. You go in the bedroom I'm going to bed. When they in the bed Like come here, Fuck on me.
T:Regular. I don't know what's the problem. Yeah, I'm auntie. That's so weird.
M:There were you there and he's looking yeah, okay, yeah, get your next time, not next week, next time sometime, whatever that is down the road, way down the road, so but wait a minute, you know and you try to.
M:You try to. When you try to work around, you try to say, okay, it's like a bad piece of bread, like you hungers hell. But you know that corner bread like a little moldy, but you ain't got no more mold, but you got a lot. You know you ain't got no more bread, but you got. I'm going to cut that little moldy part off.
T:Yeah.
M:I'm going to cut that off and leave that aside. So I'm going to go to the house, know I'm avoiding certain things, certain conversations, because we're going to get too deep, because I want her asking questions.
T:No, I should get crazy and certain you know that you can control the conversations that women are going to have or that men are going to have.
M:Yeah, you really can't, because you can't, you can't Because women One good jab One good jab.
T:I mean, my nephew bought a girl over and she didn't even make it to the door and my sister jabbed her. I said all the kids came in oh my God, I'm too so embarrassed. And oh my, she's so. And I was like where's the girl at? The girl ain't even making it in the house. Yet the girl didn't even. She didn't even make it in the house. We all know we got at least one loose cannon in the family.
M:Yes, god damn it. Yes, that is very God damn true, very true, you know, and you know, these are things that you know.
M:You have to take an account when you bring it in someone outside in, because you know of course they're going to look at them and say how the hell did you get from them? Because you as well, you know they're different and that's the whole thing. You have to be. That chain is going to break the madness. You may be a person. You know everybody is asked the same way. You're like I don't have to, I want to do something different.
M:So you're going to, you're going to live differently, you're going to think differently. Did I go on the stand? Because they're like we were always thinking and doing the same thing you doing, so you're down the black sheet. So of the family, so now you know, you got to say you have to take that, pick it in the chest. See, I'm going to be that person going to take all the bullets. I'm going to take all that because I have to, and then you're the one who's going to make a change, not in their lives, obviously, but in your life.
M:So if you happen to like a different type of thing that they don't like, I don't really care. If you don't like, I like to tea, and I have to accept that. And you're going to have to accept it, because if not, then you won't see me that often, because why would I put my significant other, my spouse or my girlfriend through Bullshit? Because you feel you should be with this person? Well, you should be with that person. This person makes me happy, this person who I'm going to spend my life with. And Lord, don't bring kids into the mix, cause then the kids go. You know, I'm going to be like. I'm going to be like I love what you're saying to the micro Cause, then the kids coming to mix. Now you're going to burn a house down cuz.
T:That depends on how you are able to take care of the.
M:Oh God, a Pants. You know, baby, and you're looking likeheads. You know what the baby made? It just past gas. We just maybe spelled dirty. No, no, no, no, cuz that's, that's how you get your house set on fire. You fuck around the kids like me, I'm gonna go, she's the dope, but the baby oh you sure that's your baby? It look, don't look like you.
T:Like hurry what we do, got do like what we call like a facial DNA.
M:See, they do, thinking they saw the sculls, got in their closet, they part.
T:That's why they're saying that maybe why they are saying it. Let's just be clear has nothing to do with you.
M:Yeah, that's there. Yes, absolutely you know, but it's just you know. You know we can't. You know the things you sing, think we're talking, but you have to apply to your own personal life.
T:Okay, what about the three thousand bucks?
Mac Da Don:Okay no, no, that was great. A 100% USDA choice cap.
T:That did not read three thousand books. Okay, no, it's near the three thousand. Okay, they celebrate if the kids do 100 for the school year. Now, granted, I think that my man's this say that he was not in a traditional school between those ages right. And I'm not trying to say whether it was fact or fiction, but he did make me sit down with myself and say damn, he made me feel like I was doing a little underachieving.
Mac Da Don:The only way to obtain knowledge was to specifically read.
T:I know what you're trying to do here. Okay, you're trying to save the kids.
Mac Da Don:Oh no, I'm not Kids is reading okay, I'm not saying that I'm saying is you can read a whole bunch of shit.
T:And that's what I'm saying.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, you can read good shit and not read three thousand. No, how do you read three thousand books? Yeah, goodbye, I. I.
T:Ten pages. You bring it in the tutor because we just got to stop. They should. I don't like it. And they read the multiple languages, so he has to add it, that part there, oh.
Mac Da Don:What german? Is a cr Warren shot True languages. What?
T:much younger, about the same age range. Right, we had we sat to read in the mornings because school day was super long and then he had soccer practice. And he had. You know, he was just had a busy day so we didn't get everything done in the evenings. So, yeah, he had to read in the mornings and he'd say he was saved by the bus.
Mac Da Don:I knew he wasn't.
M:Oh God.
Mac Da Don:Because, imagine waking up first thing in the morning, you sitting there like I'm not even trying to explain it, Somebody's having a book of funny while you eat cereal.
T:That's it. It's the best, it's the best stories ever.
Mac Da Don:See, I saw the look and look. It's all love when I say this. My mother would have been. We fought a lot growing up and I ain't do nothing of that. We fought a lot and I ain't do nothing of that.
T:So I can only imagine. I can only imagine we had this shit. Oh God. I tell you how the year goes Because we had the year just started, right? So I'm gonna tell you how the year goes with that.
M:Yeah, please I got to know.
Mac Da Don:I want to know how many kids, how many books we had about that year. We're gonna keep tabs.
M:Yes, we're gonna keep tabs on them.
Mac Da Don:In December we're gonna talk about it again.
M:Yeah, because I Like cat.
Mac Da Don:Now we had kids read two, three books a day. Now it makes even a thousand. So how the hell did you know? I want to know. I just want to share this with you?
M:Yeah, that was like.
T:That was just amazing. There was something that was a little bit. It was a lot of books and I A lot of cat. I don't even know what you would have found, all them books. How you want to be able to run out of books every year. That's an 80.
M:That's a lot. I got damn books. That's a lot of books.
Mac Da Don:You didn't live in a library. You said you was at home, so did you just have a library in your house.
T:It was maybe the missionaries had libraries.
Mac Da Don:I don't know, you know what? What he probably was reading books. He probably put in the mufflers on my desk. Oh, it's a book. This book says why are there some microphones? All right, that's one book read. This book says microphones. All right, that's book number two. Is this USB cord? That's book number three I'm just trolling, but like also, we're not shitting like cat. Didn't read three thousand books. It was called USB, but you are correct, you should want to experience your education outside of the classroom.
M:I think that if there's nothing else, we're going to bring on.
Mac Da Don:It's changing kids' education outside of the classroom.
M:Absolutely.
Mac Da Don:How do you kids read a book? How do you kids Like here we?
T:go. I got you. I'm not going to listen to that kid. I got to get out of the fight because I'm not going to listen to that kid. We're back, we won. I'm going to listen to this kid right there.
Mac Da Don:Make some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't eat that, but no, no, they ain't doing that. But, like, use something outside of class, find something that's actually interested in and provide both. Provide materials to allow your kids to grow their brain outside of the nine to five. Yeah, because I guarantee you, not because I don't attend the reason why kids don't ever feel inspired or never want to go to college after finishing school Because they don't know what the fuck you want to cause for.
T:Oh man, if you could say that shit again, you have no clue what the fuck you want to cause, for you have no other.
Mac Da Don:All you know is what you were taught every single day. You're like no, this shit is interesting. There was no projects going on, there was nothing that made you really kind of sting yourself.
T:Yes, you weren't a part of the actual school, like grooming, you were just there.
M:Yes, you were just there, yes, you were never a part of it.
T:So yeah, we do need to kind of jump in with our children's education and put some hands in and maybe open up their eyes to all types of things.
Mac Da Don:There's so many things nowadays that can make money. There's so many things that, like, don't even require you to use your hands. That would actually not only pay you well, but take care of you.
M:Mm, hmm.
Mac Da Don:Electricians are is a huge job.
M:Plumbers.
Mac Da Don:Plumbers Huge job Everybody needs. How many times the toll is going up Period? How many times you see the broken toll sign and they're like damn, I don't know if it's totally because they need to fix it. Yep, everybody says, oh, that's a meaning job, it's a smelly job that makes a lot of good money.
M:A lot of good money.
Mac Da Don:I mean everybody can't do like the clean hand, no, but by the same focus At home job. Like some people just aren't going with their brains, some people are better with their hands. So the thing for me is that when, when I graduated college, by the time I graduated college, like half of the people I started with didn't even I didn't, I started school with one even there, because they either failed out or transferred or something.
Mac Da Don:But a lot of the issues with the people who left were saying that I didn't even know what the hell I wanted to do. And then I went to community college for two years. You know, I went to a full year, had no clue what I wanted to do and I'm wasting money, yeah, yeah. But if somebody told you like hey, like would you, are you using your hands? Like like here's how setting up a and that system looks like, is what plumbing looks like, that's how you would do pipes or whatever, learning something else is outside of the nine to five or, I guess, seven to two class day.
T:That might just oh or like a plan which you've actually learned is something interesting of the regular every day.
Mac Da Don:Like that was cool. I was like that was like whatever. Now I like learn algebra. And then learning algebra was cool. I'm still the way. I like math. Then we learned statistics and when I learned statistics it was like everything kind of fell into place because, like, oh, learning the public and why things occur was interesting to me, so that was like the thing, that kind of like oh, this all kind of pushed me into. Oh, I'm going to kind of enjoy math because, realistically, like you look at statistics, you look at mobile, whatever it should mean to take stats for me to really enjoy math as a subject. You don't like reading and then you do history. You have a history class. You don't get for my English history Not actually I'm not doing none of it.
Mac Da Don:I like it. Now, that's fun, now that's interesting. I don't want to do it. But those things aren't necessarily like what you would go to school for. You might go to school for history. You might go to school to write. Well, you might go to school because you want to do it. You might go to school because you want to dance. You might go to school because you really got to playing a sport, you really got to playing instruments. Whatever the case may be, there's a lot of good things that kids can do nowadays outside of the school day that would allow them to expand their actual skill set so that they can go out. To those who want to be well rounded individuals, we don't expand the skill set of kids. We make them go through the school day and say, as long as you do well in school, you're fine, and then you try to go outside and they just are like we thought you'd be a well rounded individual.
T:They're not experienced much. You haven't done anything.
Mac Da Don:You haven't tried anything. But now you're 18 years old and somebody's telling you you're an adult yes, you still need to go make a big decision, and yet you don't know anything.
M:Yeah, and the biggest thing people feel realized is schools were set up by John D Rockefeller and if you go back, I want people to go back and look at how modern schools develop. They want to train workers. They didn't want to. They didn't want to train you to think. You didn't want to thinkers. We don't want thinkers, we want workers. So this back in 1900s. So basically we're still doing now in 2024 with a lot of people, but they started back in 1902. And in fact, I'll bring it next time so you can see some stuff on it. That that's why it hasn't changed, because you look around, Wait a minute, everything is changing around, but the school is still the same. You're still doing the same shit and these kids are coming out of school.
Mac Da Don:That's what you teach you can't tell how to do taxes at 16, because a lot of people can work Underage, 56 years old. Yep you go get a job and like make money and have to pay taxes, you don't have to pay taxes and somebody teaches you like hey, how about checkbook? How to write a check, how to write a check, how to physically sit down and write each line on a check. These are functional, adult things that everybody would need to know in some way, shape or form someday.
T:But if your ass is that red, more books about finances.
M:But then again you're right.
Mac Da Don:How would you mind if we had a finance book?
T:I mean you would assume there's some on your parents bookshelf.
Mac Da Don:You have a finance book for your bookshelf.
M:What's he? You're different.
T:So, that's the point I do have a little bookshelf and I have a lot of old taxes, exactly. So you keep tax.
Mac Da Don:We're especially in business.
T:People are texting stuff like that to kind of amaze yourself of like why you do yeah, so you gotta yeah, yeah, you and I get that, I keep, I have a lot of my stuff over the years and so I might get to benefit for something like that.
Mac Da Don:Mm, hmm, and that's something that I always kept in mind Like keep your tax, because, even if it's 20 years old, business, business, business that's the same information you know. They need to be in new addition, different author.
T:Yeah, chapter added chapter. Exactly, it's the same. It's the same book, Exactly.
Mac Da Don:I can send my kids 20 years from now to the same classes that I told for the same book. Absolutely.
M:Yeah.
T:Absolutely. The way you balance your accounting side is still going to be the same.
M:Like it is never changed and the problem is it's a society. We're not doing what's best for the kids because all these kids are coming out. You know how many kids come out and can't read at all.
T:At all. Well, you see the situations in Baltimore.
M:Yes, yes.
T:Just the name one major city.
M:Yes.
T:Like that is catastrophic.
M:And what happens, people, that these kids can't read? No, it goes further than that, because what you're doing is you now look at, you're looking at the print, the school, the prison pipeline, because if you go out of school you can't read, you can't get a job. You can't get a job, you have to survive. You have no skills. What are you going to do?
T:So that's the end product. The effect of what you've created in your little factory was a kid who couldn't read, and is everybody in the community problem?
M:And then because the other thing I found out recently that prison is a multi-trillion dollar business.
T:Oh, did you. When did you find that?
M:out A couple of weeks ago. It was like some.
T:KFC and the fast food situation down south.
M:No, no, no, it was, I didn't know that was happening.
T:Just so we're clear. I didn't know they was making obvious.
M:Listen, I mean, they Bill Gates, one of the world's wealthiest men, on a large percent of a prison, a private prison industry, two of them, in fact. Now I just have to question why would one of the wealthiest men in the world invest a lot of money in private prisons?
T:Well, so it makes a nice amount of money.
M:And think about it. You want a business that's growing.
M:People want to put their money and some of their money going to constantly turn around and if you look around just how schools and how it was going on with people in general, people are committing crime because that's a chance to find money because they outsource it from the government, like the government will outsource it, you know, like we need facilities because we have enough people, we got too many people put in here and we need to put them somewhere else, so then they ship them to these private prisons down south, mind you. And the thing is you got to keep them full, because the thing is I have to keep them full in order to keep this moving and operating.
T:So how do you so this is different from a state prison.
M:They can. They can ship them down there and then you can. It's a entire. That's another thing on the side that we have discussed, but it's money, yes nothing about this Right I mean Bill.
T:Gates, but like the most superficial bits of this.
M:Oh wait, what you look at Bill Gates and he owns the two largest private prisons. He is a large stockholder in those prisons and when the man has that kind of money and he'll put money in bullshit. He put money in like new housing development or nothing like that. He said I'm putting in prisons because that means you will have to keep people in there.
T:Because we're concerned now about the rest. Oh, yes. Is there like zero risk, because it doesn't sound risky at all. It's a money graph that if you're tossing you know significant amount of money there, then you know it's going to give you a significant return on the investment with a minimum rest.
M:Think about it. You have a lot of huge companies that use prison labor Because, again, you don't get paid a sense of the dollar. So if you're going to be in there for 20 years, what else am I going to do for 20 years? Somebody go ahead and get some money out of this. I can put something to my comments there. So I'm going to go ahead and make these books or do what I need to do.
M:That's why in federal government they put a clause in there you cannot use prison or contact conflict labor to do with their work. It's explicitly in government contracting work. Because if that's the case, then I'm going to get go to Jessup or any other place. Hey, didn't you hire like 10 of these dudes do this work? Pay them $2 an hour. I'm going to go, and maybe $400 an hour, peer, apart from me, and I can just give you $2 to the state or to the prison to take care of you. You don't want that, that's what. And that cuts out everybody else like us who want to get a job. Because why pay me 50 grand? I can pay a prison who's in jail for 20 years $2 an hour. So all this is part of the overall system that nobody really understands. So when you say we always say kids fail while they're failing, how are kids graduating and not learning how to read or know how to do taxes, know how to?
T:do a lot of job application or college application, so what?
M:have you been doing? We spent a whole lot of money, shitload of money in education. Every year they ask for a whole lot of money in education and these kids are no smarter than they were 30 years ago.
T:I thought every child was attached to a dollar amount per year.
M:Hmm, it's just supposed to be. But okay, come on, it's still ain't helping them. So you know. So you get a cat who in Ohio. I can imagine how their school systems are I mean our school system here in Maryland pretty damn good Compared to yes. So he couldn't. He dingled school. He left when he was like but 13, 14, he got out, he dropped out of school. So I mean he had to survive. He even said he's on the streets. He was like you know, that's why he never used drugs. You know, because we talk about all those people that stopped using drugs. He said that's why I never use drugs. He said I use marijuana but I never use anything else. He said the people I've been on the streets, everybody. They start off top of the world and use drugs. They're on the streets.
T:That's the thing about people who are on drugs. They honest a lot. You find a lot of honest. Yes, they ruin my life.
Mac Da Don:That's what you should be by the time you fall.
T:Yeah, I'm all the way down at the bottom. You're honest. Say how I need to be lying for who you a little, who you talking to in the breath, hey that's not funny.
Mac Da Don:You're the couple in my stream. Impressive, be honest. That's so true. You're the man in the middle. You're the man in the middle. You're the man in the middle. You're the man in the middle. You're the man in the middle. You're the man in the middle.
M:You're the man in the middle.
Mac Da Don:In the middle, guys, come fast, you're your nanny.
M:They don't like you Was on drugs, all their life, say you know what I start with a kid with dreams and hopes and I got on that crack Whoo, I'm the best crack head the world.
Mac Da Don:Shit, tony Montana, make it that, make it all like that. Now the movie care.
M:You're not going to and it's innocent. It's a setup for every everybody. Drugs is a true setup for everyone's failure. Because that say no, the drugs is bullshit, because you get drugs anywhere. But you have to give people some purpose. And I think the cat he had to find his purpose. You know cuz he's out. You know I want to be. I realized he was a job witness. He was like you know I want to do that. Well, you know, I know you probably know a little something, something, something about you know that type of you know it's kind of like he had to be honest by by listening to him. He had to find his purpose.
T:I mean, you think about it, anyone who's that age? No, just in general 13. You use, you work, you working on looking for yourself, right.
M:Mm-hmm, I know who am I?
T:you kind of coming into Asia security time, right, just so by nature. Absolutely, you're gonna try to figure yourself out, but then you want to add on the time and Haiti. Yeah, your perspective is it's a very broad view. Yes, you've seen people from a lot of different lights. We're gonna assume that American porn, at the same as 84.
M:Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We complain a lot about, about, you know, the poor. But yeah, until you see the poor in these other countries.
T:I don't think it looks the same. Oh, no so you know, you, just I just think about that Like that's one heck of a perspective to be, and then be like, oh, to feel like you feel moved to have, you felt moved to leave, right, yeah, no, I was 13 and I felt like that's what you're supposed to do at that age.
M:Yeah, go school.
T:Amazing, don't get me wrong, but that was one heck of a theory that he did. I think he said Was that his reckoning from Jesus's walk, walk through life?
M:I don't, I think yeah, he was talking about Jesus, for.
Mac Da Don:Jesus.
T:Yeah.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, I think he said he was to, his aspiration was to be God's best friend Mm-hmm, I think, was the term that he used, and because of that that was a lot kind of who dictated why he quote-unquote did things and didn't do things or whatever. So yeah.
M:And he did. And you know the amazing thing he talked about, which is like who's beautiful to me? He helped people. He took you know, he gave people money and he didn't just say you see, such time I gave you money, he's game money and he said nothing about it. But people come on, he helped me with this. He gave me 15,000 or some. I was on, I forgot, I don't know boots. Yes, so my say, he gave me this, getting out of money for this.
T:But he never told about it Like and not to say even bragging on him or just shouting them out, but he just mentions it. Yes so even before you know, this interview came out. Yes, right.
Mac Da Don:People who are like, oh, we were blessed, but like we kept it close to the best because he cut the clothes in the back, yeah, and it's kind of what was quick or cool, like you ain't saying I know. Yeah, I think to me the biggest thing of that that conversation was not that he was so given, but that he Did it without thinking and I think Even what's that further to say, he did it without the need for Agulation there you go and a lot of times people, when they do good things, they want to tell you these are the good things they've done.
Mac Da Don:That's one thing if you have something where, like, you have to go sit there at some event and show your face and say, hey, you know I'm the guy doing this because this is what they want you to do. But sometimes people just you know, hey guys, I gave to SPCA the local SPCA here's the screenshot of me Given a hundred two hundred, three thousand, three thousand, whatever the month that you gave you know, just want to share it so I can show it to all my friends and aspire this bullshit. She's one of special, the fucking back you like it a heart on your fucking paper pages.
Mac Da Don:You some bitch.
M:I knew it was coming. I knew it was gonna come.
T:You want to.
Mac Da Don:You want the high fives in the past.
Mac Da Don:On the back, I mean I don't want that ever was there flowers if it wasn't a while. But she wants your flowers doing for something that you actually gave back. Just because you, you did a charitable act, charity Inherently shouldn't be giving you anything other than the good feeling, your spirit. Not necessarily you mean everybody to co-sign your shit. Everybody's co-sign your, your charitable gift by following up behind you and pay you on your back. Was it really charity? Or you just want to have a reason for people to cheer for you?
M:see and that's my problem, because I'm gonna say this in my entire life people help me. I never asked for help, never wanted to ask you my for help. People help me. And I kept saying was like, when I get to position, help someone else. So my life, my life, I've helped a lot of people and I never came say, listen, I'm put on IG, I'm putting here, doesn't matter.
M:All I tell them do is like, when you see, when you get to a position, when you help other people, just help them, that's it. You'll know if they're the type you want to help, if they're the type of just want to beg, and know if it's somebody out there Really busting their ass and going through a tough time, help them, and then you'll get those blessings down the road. And to this day, I still get people calling me hey, you know what? I help somebody out and I just thought about what you did for me 15 years ago or whatever I said great, that's all you need. If you do that, then they'll do something for someone. So there's no need to be out here, pat yourself on the back because you help some. I just help the fucking person. Don't go out there and have a big-ass card and everybody just blow their horn and wave at me Because I go oh hell might I am, because he helped me know, just do this shit, because this, humanly, that's what you should do help people.
T:Like the show. I always say that they're the people who are full Right like. You can't even pour back into those people, even if you wanted to.
M:Absolutely.
T:Now what's like? Flowing all out of them.
M:Yes.
T:Oh, to you now, yes you can't pour into them, even if you wanted to. Somebody try to pay you back. He like I'm full.
Mac Da Don:Because what I think about it, I was thinking like the I don't know if you've you've seen it, but like the I guess the arts, arctic art, art and art style with like glasses, where there's like one cup on top and then there's like two cups below that and three cups. What comes is like a pyramid of cups and you just pour the liquid in the top cup and you keep pouring the liquid in the top, cut the top, cut over flows, he drops into the next level, those cups over fully drop to the next level. I guess that's really what I think life.
T:Yeah, the top cup always is over.
Mac Da Don:It's like, well, I can't hold this shit, so I Let it go to the lesson. People was flowing over.
T:Yeah, that's the point of it. Yes, yeah, before before you know the same, before I give away. And so now that I'm in a position to give away, I don't need you to pour into me with pouring into me, it's gonna keep on pouring.
M:Absolutely integrity. That and we, like we started entire you know podcast talk about cat Williams and again let me say the story is irrelevant. The story is Relevant if you in the gossip, but we're like when using in real life situations. So it's like telling people learn the lessons. Look at the gossip, you know.
T:Come on.
M:Yes.
T:Shannon sharp did good, you know, kind of controlling the interview and keeping the questions going. It was good for entertaining sake, but overall the moral of the story there was one there- yes. And that's what we're basically saying don't don't skip over all those gems that were dropped just for that entertainment sake. That was also present in that.
M:Absolutely. You know, and so, guys, I can see it. You know, look at, apply this to your life. You know, take it, look at, look at your life. It's everybody's watching this podcast got some bullshit going in their life. Everybody's, nobody's. I have a perfect life, everything's going wonderful. It's fucking not I. You fucking don't. We try to do is give you suggestions on how to make your life better. So you know, take it, use it, pass it on wherever you need to absolutely don't forget to pass it on.
M:Yes, Just pass it on. So you know, guys, with that I'm in this episode on the mic with the M. Listen y'all again. Hit that like button, subscribe to the channel, and next week we're gonna have some discussions on some big things going on next year. So until then, peace of blessings. See you later.