Would you stay in a relationship like Jada Pinkett Smith's? We invite you to join us in our fiery discussion on public figures and the intimacies of their relationships, using the example of Jada Pinkett Smith to illustrate the complexities of sharing one's personal experiences so publicly. We examine the pitfalls and consequences, especially for men, of such an open approach and the often resulting frustration and hesitance towards commitment and marriage.
We don't shy away from analyzing relationship dynamics and expectations set by both partners, using Jada's situation as a prime example. It's a potent discourse on the tension between men's expectations versus women's reality, the concept of 'eating bullshit' in relationships leading to resentment, and the significance of moving on from past relationships. We also tackle the sensitive topic of prolonged separations in marriages, their implications, and how external factors can influence decision-making in relationships.
Our episode concludes on the vital role of honest and compassionate communication in relationships. We delve into the challenges faced when entering a marriage for protection or dealing with a partner who is ill or an addict. We stress the importance of maturity, trust, and the ability to leave the past behind in order to heal and progress. This is a must-listen episode for anyone seeking a raw, honest look at relationship dynamics!
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Would you stay in a relationship like Jada Pinkett Smith's? We invite you to join us in our fiery discussion on public figures and the intimacies of their relationships, using the example of Jada Pinkett Smith to illustrate the complexities of sharing one's personal experiences so publicly. We examine the pitfalls and consequences, especially for men, of such an open approach and the often resulting frustration and hesitance towards commitment and marriage.
We don't shy away from analyzing relationship dynamics and expectations set by both partners, using Jada's situation as a prime example. It's a potent discourse on the tension between men's expectations versus women's reality, the concept of 'eating bullshit' in relationships leading to resentment, and the significance of moving on from past relationships. We also tackle the sensitive topic of prolonged separations in marriages, their implications, and how external factors can influence decision-making in relationships.
Our episode concludes on the vital role of honest and compassionate communication in relationships. We delve into the challenges faced when entering a marriage for protection or dealing with a partner who is ill or an addict. We stress the importance of maturity, trust, and the ability to leave the past behind in order to heal and progress. This is a must-listen episode for anyone seeking a raw, honest look at relationship dynamics!
Go to http://www.overcometoobecome.com to see all of the Video Podcasts and the other podcasts under the "Overcome 2 Become" YouTube Channel
Follow M at @overcometoobecome and T at @tress_city on Instagram
Email us at overcometoobecome@gmail.com for thoughts, comments and show suggestions. Come join the discussion
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to On the Mic with the M.
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M:Today, goddamn, we gon' talk about Jada, but more than Jada, bad and toxic relationships. Men if you see women like Jada, fuckin' run, Run for the hills as fast as you can. Women if you see a guy that acts like Jada, run your goofy asses as fast as you can in the opposite direction, because the shit she's putting out here ain't good for nothing. These are people you don't wanna deal with, you don't? You don't wanna deal with it. It's some bullshit. This is a straight bull shit. T you didn't jump all the way in.
T:We didn't even get to expose what was going on. Oh, okay, you forgot that.
M:Shit, I'm sorry. Yeah, you know you're in bed to leave. No, it's the closet. Yeah, you're in bed to leave.
T:Y'all are like fuck it, I'm just gonna live it. Right now, I'm so upset, it doesn't fucking matter what Jada did.
Mac Da Don:Listen, don't be her. I mean realistically, let's call it speed as speed. Right, let's start. Let's just from.
Mac Da Don:We talked about Jada before, right? Yes, during the slap last year. If you haven't checked it out, link is probably in the description. But this year she talks to Memoir. She's like you know what, guys? Let's talk about my life First off.
Mac Da Don:Nigga, I don't want no more about your life. I'm in a harm, disrespect. Your life sounds like it's fucking awful. Why? Because it's a coffin of fucking sadness and like shoulda, coulda, what is for no reason Like. She act like niggas. Just grew up and you was just in the hood getting smacked up. Niggas was was part of my part of my language, ladies and gentlemen, was violating you and some more shit. And then you, like man, you know, I finally got a chance to get out of this and I just was sticking with different pitch. There are like 95, 96, 97% of women would kill you tomorrow for your life. A nigga who's going to provide for you? Go get your kids show and shower you with love. It's not the way I wanted it and they make me feel bad. And in two parts of my soul mate and I loved him and we didn't have sexual chemistry, but when you were so late in my kids and we all shut the fuck up. I was a brief synopsis, though.
T:Yes, it was pretty well done. I'm gonna be honest.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, yeah.
T:It was very much so male bias, but still like it was well done. It was well done. I will say that.
M:Oh God, yes, I just. It's just a, it's just a never ending saga with her.
T:I mean? Well, first of all, it's the fact that it's an open book situation. So I think a lot of us are trying to figure out what else do we need to know about her that we don't already know, right, like, what more do you need to explain to us about you and Tupac? What more do you need to explain to us about you and any other entanglement? Perhaps you were and we don't know? I don't know, but what more do we need to know about her and her husband? Because at this point we just wanted, we tried to shush them back after the slap.
M:Oh, my God, yes.
T:Like we've been said that we don't need to know nothing about nobody's marriage.
Mac Da Don:No.
T:Like this relationship is nothing different from anybody else's. And now, all of a sudden, we on a whole book tour about them about the marriage.
T:I'm like, oh, okay, but okay, so technically, technically, we should be given her a pass right, Because it's like she's standing in her truth. This is very bold of her. Perhaps it's not propaganda, Perhaps this is very true things right, Even though she does want you to buy the book ultimately. But she's saying these aren't false. You know events that she's claiming Her and will perhaps really were, you know, separated for all of those years, and you know we're judging her quite harshly.
M:Yes.
T:And I don't know if she knows why we're going to tell you You're quite get it.
M:We're going to say why we're judging her harshly.
Mac Da Don:Yeah.
M:Real, real harshly, and I mean I just made that shit up, but we just real harshly. If you're not happy, can you fucking just leave. Why you got to tell us you've been separated for seven years and all this other bullshit Because it's making, it's taking all of Will's balls. If he had some, we don't.
T:We don't even got. We need to go drive.
M:Yeah, I wish it was like all I wish I'll give them my way, Because to me this is a coffin of your own doing.
M:Yeah. So you know again it's. This is the reason why I get a lot of guys that say, hey, this is why I don't want to fucking marry this this people, women like her, women like any other women who does this, this is why I don't want to get married, because they can't keep the damn mouth shut. The guy tell the whole world how miserable they are, but they don't tell me, the man, how miserable they are, but they're going to tell everybody else. And now I got to look like the bad guy because you hear from her side, which is really probably not the right side, but that's what she wants to tell. So one sided, one side, and so guys like this shit right here because it could only be one side.
T:I can only tell my story.
M:And what's the purpose of telling your story?
T:Yeah, Generally speaking, as a married couple, I wouldn't just stand there to speak on my story alone.
M:Exactly so. That's why a lot of guys we get writings all the time about guys like I'm glad you put an update because women don't have this conversation you want to talk about. Women aren't responsible. They try to throw it on us and it's really. She is doing this for purpose, which is not benefiting the marriage union is benefiting her Because why you got going to book tour? We're not talking about Will Smith, who's a book dude who barely keeps food on the table. We talk about guys who have millions and millions of dollars. So it should not be for money. It should be based on you really have a truth outside of your marriage. If it's your personal, I want to hear it all day. I want to see how. Tell me how you overcame certain things. Tell me how you survive certain things in your life. I hear it all day long because you're a person who overcame and can teach other people how to overcome their difficulties.
T:But when they be intertwined, because I'm married, like if I'm going through something that's going to be all intertwined within my marriage myself, who I am and what I'm trying to do. So if I tell the story of what I was going through and what I had to overcome, I did that with you and when some points I offended you, some points I was away from you, I had to avoid, you know, like how it goes down inside of a real household, right?
Mac Da Don:True.
T:Like when I'm, when, if I'm depressed or sad or mad or you know, work has got me overwhelmed, Right, I'm feeling. I'm feeling that inside the house and I'm kind of pushing that off on you also the way I'm going about and moving around. So when it's time for me to tell my story on, you know how I was going through. Whatever it is I was going through. You're a part of it because you was there, Because we're married.
M:Absolutely, and that's something that you, as a unit, should be talking about. Now if we, as a unit, come together. So you know what, when we went through we should the world see what we went through together and presented as a united front.
T:Yeah.
M:Not as you running out there saying, well, this, I didn't like this, I didn't like that, or he wanted to make me happy, but that wasn't making me happy and I want somebody who's dead and long gone, and so it's like what the fuck.
T:What does he say? She wanted the guy who's dead and long gone, did she?
M:Oh, he's my soulmate and I swear to be fair.
Mac Da Don:I will give her her flowers and saying this she said there's different levels of soulmate. Your kids can be your soulmate. We will listen to them. For this, pah started so for her soulmate, we take it a romantic sense, but I guess what she truly meant is just when you think of somebody who, like, understands you to your core. I think that's the crux of what she's trying to say. Like, soulmate is somebody who understands you to your core. I said exactly what you want, exactly who you are, and does it actually change? Because they know exactly who you are, they accept you for that.
Mac Da Don:And I think that's what she's saying is that Tupac accepted her for all her isms and all that her shit, and that's cool. Like, I'm glad that, like you found somebody who accepts you for your shit. Right, everybody should find somebody who accepts them for their shit. I don't need to know the shit that you have that you wish somebody would accept my issue with Jada and I think a lot of guys who are like my age have the issue is. It's a prime example of why you don't try to make somebody better than who they are. Like yo had money, yo decided to say I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to try to uplift this Baltimore chick and try to show her a different life where you could actually celebrate and have a good time and be outside, and she's like. I didn't want any of that. Your disrespectful fucking ass had the audacity to turn this man's fucking kids against them because you're a piece of shit.
Mac Da Don:Call speed of spade. There's a bunch of bitches who watch this fucking podcast, who sit there and swear up and down that Jada is not wrong. I'm telling you from the kindness of my spirit to go fuck yourself. If this is a problem for you, then go ahead and turn the fucking podcast off. I'm talking to the niggas and the women who fully understand that this shit is fucking insane. I don't need to know Nobody needs to know that much about your life. Call speed of spade. Nobody's still that much about your life. If you are happy in your relationship, then you most logical, smart people just remove themselves from the fucking relationship You're sitting here, I'm just gonna put a little fire Okay.
T:That was the producer. He made me drop the mic on there. Okay, yes, now I'm just back up just a little bit. We are mostly offended over the highlight of the whole two-pot thing because at this point and I think I'm speaking on behalf of most people because it's too redundant at this point, is that true? Is that basically what's going on?
Mac Da Don:Like, yeah, I'm sorry, so what At this like I was gonna say you don't fucking like your nigga that you married to Like to me that's what she keeps going out of her way to say I don't fuck with will Every time that nigga exists.
T:I'm thinking of ways I can say good, fuck that nigga. That's what she's saying, that that's what it sound like. That's what it sound like. It's like you don't fuck with that nigga, and that's cool.
Mac Da Don:I'm not telling you you need to like that, I'm like, but you married them, right?
T:So we sit here. That's not the best way to honor. Will we talk about that all the time, like, okay, you go, it's?
Mac Da Don:not the best way to honor him Exactly? Because, you go there and you say like I'm gonna go ahead and when I get married I have a set of vows like to honor to hold to care for whatever. You both are married for a long period of time, longer than they were.
T:Yeah, right so.
Mac Da Don:I don't think so. Well, you might be, you might 27 years, yeah, 27.
M:Yeah, I think okay.
Mac Da Don:I thought they were like 20.
T:I thought they was 28. I don't know.
Mac Da Don:I don't. I don't say they married Even. Still, let's say you were married 28. And so you're also comparable. Yeah, right, yeah, even if you guys have had your shit, you have not come on any of these fucking 50 plus episodes of this podcast and buried mom. You ever came over here on these 50 someone podcasts and buried your husband. But she actively, whenever she opens her mouth, finds a way to say man well, never give a fuck about me, never give a fuck about me the way I wanted to be given a fuck about. Not, he didn't like in place, understand what I'm saying? Not, oh, he doesn't care about me, but like I expected him to care about me in this particular way, you cannot control how somebody cares about you. No, you got control how somebody shows their love to you, even if that's not the way you might accept love. We talked about love languages. Your love languages were obviously different. That was that's obvious.
T:That's the most obvious thing.
M:That's the obvious thing.
T:We can kind of learn from this situation that you know we all have love languages and we see two love languages that weren't Actually on the same page.
M:It was connected. Yeah, yeah, I think that's.
T:That's. That's real, fair, and obvious here.
M:And it's just constantly. It's like again, you could use your platform for a lot of different things and you have a platform. You can use your platform for good or your platform for fuckery.
T:I think, I think this is the situation where keeping it real goes wrong.
T:I think that's just all that's really happening here. That, like this, is real life. You know, round away girl Jada, who you know real life is from, whatever hood near you type of girl, and she you know, and her heart just feels like you know, I'm going to keep it as real and I know it is going to be women out there who can relate to what I'm going through and I'm going to go out there and try to relate to these women and to people who, you know, want to see me for my raw self. But it's going wrong.
T:Like people aren't. It's the for better or for worse. Yes, marriage and this is the hard part to swallow guys, believe it or not, nobody wants to see the for worse part of your marriage or any marriage. No nobody wants. Your children don't want to see it. I mean, dad don't want to see it. People in the street real like they just want to watch it as an entertainment sake, but they really don't want to see it. Nobody wants to watch someone else's house on fire.
T:No the natural response is to like let's help put the fire out.
M:But every time we try to fire, you throw more gasoline on the floor. What?
T:the hell's happening at this house? Why keep? Exactly it's just so as a line and it's not like we get to see the house on fire. They get to tell us about it after it's been set on. It's like well, if there's the damn flames already out, why are you mentioning it? Already got it under control? Then why are you telling all us? Y'all were separated and now y'all reconciling your marriage now like so. Why are you talking to us about what?
Mac Da Don:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
M:And, like I said, the thing that really is bad enough on all this bullshit. But then she came out with a comment which just floored me.
M:She was like, well, I'm gonna stay married to him because he's getting old. He's gonna need somebody to fix help him when he gets old. Bitch, you only three years apart. He's like 89 years old and you 45. Like, oh, you plan on here? Well, if he falls down the steps and he needs some help, I'm gonna go over there and help him, because he's gonna need somebody to help I mean, if that man, if you were talking about something to protect him and like help him out on some real shit, like then just leave him.
Mac Da Don:You would actually be doing him a service by walking away because no one knew it's not that easy guys, I'm not saying that. I'm saying like no one knew all this shit about Wells relationships until she decided to open her mouth Will.
T:openly supports every action.
Mac Da Don:Nobody cares about that, he's taking right now he loves her.
T:Love, love Right, and that's cool. You could love her I gotta assume right this is love.
Mac Da Don:You have to assume there's some level of love there that, like to me, visually feels like is it reciprocated? Because if you care to me, if I care about somebody, I'm going to protect you from whatever bullshit from outside. I can't protect you from me. I can do what I can do. I might fuck up, I might think I'm doing the right thing and I'm doing the wrong thing. That's something that you and I have to figure out. We talk about all the time how the reason why a lot of relationships don't work is because everybody goes to everybody else with their fucking problems. Say, the person who's sitting across the table from you. You manage your wife. You talking to your best friend, your co-workers, your boss.
T:Joe, now to talk to the person sitting across from you.
Mac Da Don:But that's the problem. Because, what are you talking about? What?
T:else are you talking about.
Mac Da Don:Hey, how do we ensure that each day, each week, each month, each year moves as smoothly as humanly possible if we are not actively making sure that the decisions in which we are making are positively affecting someone else? You obviously sat there through your relationship for a lot of years and didn't say shit.
T:That's what it feels like she actively progressed in certain areas of her relationship and ignored other spaces in the relationship. So in the beginning part of the podcast we spoke about how you move with masks on and some people have more than one mask, and so this is like a prime example where she's pretty much exposed into the world like yo, no, I had on those masks and in those masks I progressed and I achieved certain things and then once I got to Apex, oh, baby, inside internally I crumbled.
M:Which means you did not do the necessary work to get yourself to where you need to get to Because again you go back to. I want to impress everybody else, I want to impress my parents, I want to impress the friends, I want to impress the world, but the only person you need to really impress is you. Yeah, but you need to know who you are, and that's.
T:that was number one. Didn't know who self was.
M:And at this point 55, I think she's 52, I think, well, 55.
T:God damn it.
M:At 52 years of age, you still trying to figure this shit out. What?
T:I don't know what they been doing. See, that's what I'm saying.
M:Because you don't have the problem. Oh well, I you know I need to see a therapist. I'm pretty sure you can find any therapist in the world?
T:No, so she had an enlightening situation.
M:Oh, enlightening.
T:Yeah, what happened Sometimes.
Mac Da Don:She had the entanglement. No, I don't know, no, no, no, was she just in her duffel bag and she was like you know what? I got to go ahead and check my dictionary. So Ian was today. I guess I'll be enlightened and then we'll do. Let's flip the next page. I guess we'll be entangled after that and then maybe we'll go ahead and get in Gord's with some dick from a 24 year old, your old, dusty bitch.
M:Oh, by the way, gledge, you brought that up. Not a problem, glad I could help. Wow, wow, that was a real session, yes, yes, but the producer Bob, a very good point. It wasn't like she went out there and found a dude around her age to have this entanglement with. Come to find out this guy was very good friends, was close with one of her kids, I don't know which, I must be the oldest one.
Mac Da Don:It was Jaden, okay, so he was friends with.
M:Jaden. So think about this your kid, who you know how old he is, so his friend, comes over and you're like that's the fuck I like putting on him. So I don't have you. I mean we must be flipping.
Mac Da Don:Flip the sexes. We're not even having this conversation. Everyone's going to be sitting there. We're not even talking about everything else. She said if we flip the sexes, there would be 85,000 people beating the shit out of Will right now talking about how dare you have sex with Willow's best friend? She's 20, some my years old. You were old ass man. That's why niggas are so weird. They're always putting the guy down when they engage 24 24. She's too old.
T:She was too old, but I mean he was, he was old enough.
M:See, see Okay.
T:Now there wasn't like a will, a male taking advantage of a of a 16 year old, absolutely, but there's still weird right. You would imagine that anybody who would think about it like oh man, my best friend, is having sex with my parent. Yeah, no, it's out of order, that's out of pocket. That's out of pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mac Da Don:That's the thing. Like regards to the age gap, is the fact that you fucking your child's friend, that's out of pocket, it is. It doesn't matter how he know the nigga, it don't matter how long it's been this shit hard.
T:It was just a side note. It was just a side note, it's true.
Mac Da Don:And so again, yeah, I'm trying.
M:Yeah, you're trying, I'm trying and it's just feeling miserably because you're right, if you switch, that will will be he be on a stick, running down the street. He was stabbing his ass and throwing tar and feathers on his ass, running his ass out of town. Because I dare, old man, look at some young, young version like that.
T:No, she wouldn't have been a version 24 in America.
M:Come on, so they have few eyes on her, but you know. But again we wouldn't have been a version, you know.
T:But again, you know, they would have canceled culture to her line because it's your friends, it's your child's friend, yes, and so it's for us. It's a little bit of, you know, it's immoral, like it's just, it's tacky. So, yeah, nice, it's been. Quite a few little tacky goes, and perhaps that's why she bat bat Question Is she worthy? That's the title of the book, worthy.
M:Worthy, that's the question she has to ask, and if she wants us to answer that question, she wants.
T:You want to read the book?
M:Oh, I'm really not sure.
T:That's the whole point of everybody talking about this.
M:You know because read the book. No, the thing is, what I've seen has told me everything I need to know. So what book can I learn from you? You're not trustworthy. Really not a wife you material, he just tried to make your wife Um that you would try anything and everything possible to tear down what that man is and what he tried to carry himself as, and you also disavow the marriage vows. You took shit and talking to people, ordinary people, about shit that you should be talking to among yourselves. I didn't need to. I don't give a shit whether you married before. I don't give a shit. But we know, based off that slap situation, if y'all was in a particular situation I wouldn't got up. If we're separated for seven years, chris Rockin, say any goddamn thing you want, because at this point we're just living together. But I have something motivated.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, and that's the thing it was. Feels like this. It feels like I've been shown heads but there's tails. That exists as well, like if you look at the corners ahead in the tail, like I keep seeing heads, keep throwing heads in front of me.
T:What's the tail? Yeah, that's the other person's story.
Mac Da Don:Wait, but he might not get on the person's story In this scenario, like a to be the a to be the c based on what you have told me, makes no sense, right? So you're telling me y'all been broken for six years and you're saying I don't even know why the fuck he got up that day, like I don't even understand why he even stood up, like he could have just let his side of me just fine, right. But if anybody can, anybody who's a body language expert, or even by who's ever seen any black woman pissed off in history, can tell you when you look at her sitting across that table, she said daggers and will, specifically in that moment, as if to say nigga, you tea here in this shit, you're not gonna do nothing. Any black man can look at that black woman's face that she displayed in that moment and say, yeah, cuz, that's a face that everybody man has seen from somebody in their life the mother, they sister, they cousin, they Wife, they wife. Somebody will you know oh, that means I fucked up. We just you just know. But he would know.
Mac Da Don:When there was a sidebar, there was a black guy Doing some news broadcasting. He was at a local fair. They had sausage hot dog, so they asked the man to try one, he said, oh man, this looks good, this looks great. He took a bite at hot dog. He was like, oh, he's talking with the whole hot dog on one side of his mouth. So much, that's a good burger. Yeah, that's good hot dog. Yeah, back to y'all, like y'all y'all in the studio, back to you. And he's still holding it. And then they cut over and you see the his Person in the studio, who's a black woman, and she's just smiling at the camera because she knows, just like we all knew, that hot dog was straight ass Because, as a black person, you look at him, you saw his face, you knew what he wanted to say. Hmm, this is terrible.
Mac Da Don:But, instead of sitting on top of you. This is my job. I got to see here a lot, yeah, so by people. We just know each other and there's very, very, very, very few cases we can look at a particular stance from black men or black women and not know what the hell was being, say, yeah, so we all invited was so heard.
M:Look at him.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, right with the, with the hostile ass face that scream, you better do something about this.
Mac Da Don:Defend my honor and you was cool because you was smiling when he smacked the shit off the nigga. So then, when you now then come out and go, I don't even know why the fuck you did that and you sound so nonchalant like he. Just he was just out here while and I had no clue what do you wouldn't have looked at stare daggers in them when it happened. He wouldn't have been applauding him when he smacked the fuck out the nigga. So obviously you're showing your saying heads, but there's a tails behind that. That's why I always feel like everything she says is disingenuous. It feels like okay, you're saying this, but that's not everything. It just can't be, because then a to b, the C doesn't make sense. Yeah, why would he smack somebody if y'all been broken for seven years and y'all was like we're not even fucking cool like that? Why are you even showing up to things together?
T:Sometimes you gotta keep up.
Mac Da Don:So I'm glad you said that. Yeah, you say you gotta keep a block, though you said you gotta keep up looks, because if you, if you go hide that shit and I really wasn't about talking about it you, I maintain appearances right, absolutely, then that means we maintain appearances throughout. That means even in post game, when you don't agree with the fact that he's back that nigga, you need to sell that shit, like you. But yeah, no, he's not he, so he protect you like he was awesome bullshit, yeah, and he kept running his fucking name about me. So I'm my husband and put him back in his place and yeah, you can then follow it up with like yeah, but we've been kind of broken for forever. But like I appreciate the fact that like he's so honored, like there's not one time where she ever it feels like she ever liked that nigga because of how she has vocalized their their relationship through the things of what she speaks about.
T:It's like she's louder about the four worst part.
Mac Da Don:Yeah this is about the what they do for me.
M:Absolutely. It's like you look and she just shit. So I'm gonna consistent base, sometimes shit on a little bit. Yeah, she's shown a lot.
Mac Da Don:Yeah and he's pretty consistent, he's just depends on how much lack there if she dropped that day, yeah.
M:So and will just. He's just like I'm just gonna keep quiet because again he has done much damage for himself moving forward. Had he not slapped Chris Rock, he's still be making $30-40 million movies like that because he was a box office icon.
M:But, with that. He had to pay the price. He can't go to any more awards show for next 10 years, is it his Satan, bob? We even give that that new girl movie. We were thinking about it because you know he's just bad rap, yeah, so he's like sitting back, if I was, well, but thank you, wait a minute, we ain't fucking like that anymore. We're not close anymore. I slapped her for to honor her and, yes, she's gonna further tell people that I'm basically I don't love you. My kids are telling me damn, dad, wish he was to pop and I'm supposed to eat that shit and he's doing because I'm trying to salvage something With an assay. This, this is just this, and everybody now knows this. This is facade. I have to, at least when this shit is over, I still have to be Will Smith. I have to be that guy that's gonna be stand for something, because I've been beating and I'm just he's not saying anything.
T:I'm just eating all the bullshit.
M:Eating all the bullshit and at some point we'll ask this question why am I eating so much bullshit for this?
T:Not necessarily will gonna ask that, but all of us gonna start asking that. Why, I swear, willing to eat so much of this bullshit?
M:Well, if you got divorced today or tomorrow, there'll be millions and millions of women that would be at his doorstep To do anything he wants to do and would love him Probably, you know, because he's will, but they do it.
T:Oh, he's a good guy and we're actually doing it for this and the man's Attracted to those women, he'd be like she don't touch me, like I did.
Mac Da Don:Honestly, it might be a benefit. The rumor is that they've always had an over one leadership regardless of how you Dispel that relationship.
T:Supposedly it was just because of the fact that they were dating while separated. Because they were separated, they perhaps would be seeing someone else. And if you saw them out with someone else, you would then think that you know, it's just open marriage, but to her it's just wasn't. It just wasn't your business. So I didn't see that because you know, I had to go get my research. Oh yeah, See what are we talking about?
M:Oh yeah, we have to and it's just so.
T:She said no to an open relationship, but yes to. We were not divorced, but we were divorced like we were divorced within our marriage. That's pretty much how she explained it right.
Mac Da Don:So if you're divorced, your relationship, but like y'all still together and you're not in a relationship, but you are in a relationship like maybe just Making fucking noise at that rate, honestly, I like we just don't shit against the fucking wallet. One day I woke up in the morning and I was. I got some monkey shit. You know, if y'all not, if you're not happy, bro, like it's cool to not be happy, your relationship it's cool. You gotta figure out if this is the relation you want to be. That's not what you want to do, then go ahead, pack it up.
Mac Da Don:But don't sit here like all these years later and be swearing up and that's in my, my humble opinion, swearing up and down that you don't fuck with the singer Like you. Just you don't like her, you don't like her, you can't, you cannot like somebody, you cannot. You can't like somebody or care about somebody and move the way she moves. Because if I care about you and I like you, I'm not gonna sit there and say like damn, he just really like I know we might have been separated for seven years. Yo, what is this Mac, the fuck out of this man from? Because, cause face me, he's back up for you, for myself.
T:Oh my god.
Mac Da Don:Chris, you, like you, really offended me. I'ma smack you. For me, he's not himself for you, he's an active for you, particularly data for himself. You know about this shit. He did it because obviously is like you know, I gotta, I gotta go do something, and that it wasn't a good thought.
Mac Da Don:It was a bad idea. We're not blaming. I'm not gonna sit here and say that like well is complete autonomous, she should have Just accepted the shit. Or like he should have moved it like. No, you shouldn't expect that one big period. Absolutely, you fucked up. That was a bad idea. Yeah, you have to pay the consequences for that. But oh, like, if you care about somebody you're not gonna send in, just be like yeah, I know he risks his career for me, but I fucked that again, like he shouldn't have done that shit anyway, it's just how you move it and that's the shit that in in. Please understand the women who are somehow still here who are defending Jada after I told you to go fuck yourself. I appreciate you because you're open-minded person, but I say this to say like, like, how I'm saying this is how a lot of guys are looking at this scenario. I'm not just saying it because it sounds good to me. I'm saying because that is a common sentiment. You don't fuck with somebody who you do this, something that you do Did it.
T:I just I just want to say it sounds like she doesn't know how to like Outwardly and like publicly. Honor her guy. Yes what it's just like you know like a case of like. Perhaps you just don't know Like what are you doing? Cuz if you knew better, we just assume you do better and T I feel you on that.
M:I hear you the problems. You old enough and been around this world long enough to understand protocol, you should understand you got some, some chick living on the streets or Baltimore City or any other. You you've been in that lifestyle for a while now last week. You've been in for decades. So at some point you say you know what we may be going through our own things in our marriage, but nobody else's reason, nobody know what this shit is. They're for you to write a book and they're gonna book tour. Like okay, yeah, we live separately but I'm gonna book tour and just Shilling this guy, and just you know. So am I worthy? No, you're not, because women who think like that will always be by themselves. Cuz. No guy want that shit, nobody want.
M:If a guy marries you and it takes a lot, cuz again for us to say you know, damn it, I'm a Marrier. You know I'm so sorry, run. You know we really trying to get married. You know we'll try to See. You know we try to get all the goodies we can. And then it's gonna be that one, that one lady late guys, it would be this one lady that's gonna happen and you gonna say you know what that's my queen, I'm gonna do. I'm a protector with my life. I'm gonna make sure I Do everything to make sure this unit stays tight. And I got her. God damn it. I've got to work for 20 hours a day, seven days a week to get some shit that she want. I'm gonna fucking do it because she got me, I got her. We're team. If that guy finds that this woman that he is invest himself in, cuz, when, by the time we do that, oh, we all in, we all in it. I mean, we're tearing up. Every time you say something to us, women are cry at the moment while you talk.
M:We're gonna be in the car in the window, in the glass mirror. Yeah, I know I'm hearing that upset, but because you take it personally, because you just want to make sure that you're as happy as possible and if you're happy, damn it. I could be happy too because you make me happy, right. But as a woman, if you fuck up that and you out there, everything he does, yeah, they know. No, I know, I bought you. I bought you a 2019 Porsche. I want a 2023 Porsche. Why could afford it? No, I want the 23 you don't be like wait me wait, wait.
M:I don't without them, bought a goddamn 70,000 dollar car for me.
T:You want a 85,000 dollar car because everybody's weirded out that that 15,000 made a difference to you. No, that was $20 in the car. As a man, you're like I don't win and the shit and she, but you know the type of woman you was dealing with.
M:Well, again, don't you all do play games?
T:No, no, y'all played the games. Manipulation to see lies.
M:Dude, y'all play that game to y'all use the Poonani?
Mac Da Don:No what they'll say is like oh, I don't care what you do, but it's secretly like will stab you eight times in a night in her mind If you don't do the exact thing.
T:She thought about you know, I told you I don't care what you do, I don't. I don't care what side of a car you pick me up, okay, but I would like a car that would be nice. Oh, let me send him the type of car one in the text message. Oh, let me email him the type of car would like in the email. I gave you all the proper directions and you ignored them all. Still got the wrong model.
M:See why? Because we Know that, goddamn it. I know you want that Lamborghini. Get you a little Volkswagen or something like that, cuz that's where our pockets are looking right now. I couldn't get you that Lamborghini, but you be living in that Lamborghini.
Mac Da Don:The issue is that you want the car but like you have no Kindness or no, like understanding what that costs. Okay, yes, $20 extra. Okay, $20 extra payment, but we pay every two weeks. That's $40 extra every month. Remember how I give you $50 for your hair nails, like now, not, that's gone, because that's the flexible money. So now you're. Something else has to get sacrificed. Yeah, but I know, and you know where you know secretly, I know outwardly You're not gonna sacrifice anything else. You would not know I'm if I tell you, okay, I can buy that car, but that's going to mean that we don't go out to eat every week. No, that means now, no, no, what you're saying is that means you need to go get another job, make it, because obviously You're not doing enough to afford the car in this. Yeah, I understand where my finances are and I understand that you're not gonna contribute, so I got to make.
Mac Da Don:What's the best sacrifice and Because the race went to the car that you want right. So now you have nothing.
M:So Absolutely nothing, cuz they're the guy's like goddamn.
T:I try to give you what I could afford and that ain't good enough for you, the one you know that woman was, though when you first like started, like it's not that much to see in the world, come on.
Mac Da Don:Okay, no, no, no, no, I'm not. No, you see me, that's about this shit. No, fuck, yeah, there is, it's a true side of street, because they don't lie about how much money got and we're more live I'm as money they're willing to accept. I just want to give this from the heart. He go and get you some flowers, you like Niggi, flowers for me, for my gift. Like it's the little shit. We guys, we don't think like. We think like yo. You want something, just say it Like I want. We think like yo. You want something, just say it like I want.
T:That's what the purpose of.
Mac Da Don:I saw this really nice dress. I saw this couch. When you see me, 18, 19 different types of just a different thing, yeah, and every time I ask you, yo, did you want that? Or like what you just show me. You see it. Now, when you say, oh, I got a gift, you show me a toy. This is a point of reference.
T:This is a point of reference, be able to know. Read in between the line.
Mac Da Don:No, this time this is not a suggestion. This is what I want, yeah that's what we are.
T:No, because you know I like that.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, yeah, because already you, just you do it. Yeah, somebody right now it's just like, yeah, that's me and that's fine, it's that you. But then don't be mad at your man for not getting the thing that you wanted, because you didn't ask for the thing that you wanted.
T:I know, but I can't get like a good return policy Go cuz we didn't want that item. I just want to take the car back.
Mac Da Don:And you know what?
T:Let me tell you, but that is good. On Instagram.
M:I think it was a skit, yeah, but I'm gonna tell you real, real, real talk. A man would take that back and he was like, fucking you, buy your own now.
T:You don't need nothing.
M:You're getting shit.
T:Now you know what's that song. You will never, never, never know. Yeah, nah her ass out in the cold and now he's down and grateful as a oh, I'm grateful.
Mac Da Don:You're right, you got all the. You know, but you know what you just said. You said look, your clothes are done. He was taking care of. But you're right and that's awesome if that's what you was doing. But we've talked about this. That's not what's happening out here. I'm not cooking for that nigga. You're not washing my clothes, you're not cooking food and not doing shit for me.
T:So they are saying y'all grown ass, man, and you can take care of yourself but I be good and got there rock to care myself.
Mac Da Don:Fuck that what I got you.
T:And you gotta get the car correct hey.
Mac Da Don:Women fail to realize that, like dog niggas see this shit constantly, whether it's us Happening to it, us actively. What's happened to one of our man's Actively right? So when you see that stuff like you, see it like a Jada, you see women come out of left, right, center like man Like I, like I stand by her, like where was the peace trance? Like yeah, what about the peace trance of the husband? I don't know, I don't give a fuck. That's not my concern right now. My concern is looking at, like, what are you doing in this relationship From your perspective? That's making your life out of the easier or harder. And you keep showing me that you keep making your life harder. You keep actively showing that your life is hard because you keep making bad decisions, you keep making poor choices, you keep acting as your leadership on point.
T:I'm just want to know it's the leadership on point, cuz I thought you know leadership Because you totally fuck you nigga.
Mac Da Don:I'm not cooking for you, shit, I'm not Burn up all your electricity and guess what? I feel like something's. I might not Not have to do anything that they do not want to. No one should have to cook for another nigga. She don't want to cook for the man, for the winner who don't. You should not have to cook for a man if you don't want to. You should not have to clean for man If you don't want to. You should not have to fuck anybody you don't want to because why you are a individual. Yeah, you should be able to make those choices for yourself.
Mac Da Don:Reprocussions is that you will be 45 years old with two cats, a dog in a fucking fairy In your house chasing shit all day. That could be the other side of it, because it's a given tape. Yeah, if you're not gonna give financial because you say the man should be with his provide, then you have to give somewhere else. Yeah, if you're constantly saying that, oh, the man is a man and he should be able to take care of himself, that is a true statement. But how is yours? A woman exists without being able to get yourself to right. So when you end up in a relationship, you decide I don't want to care myself. Now I want him to be able to take care of my nails and take care of the house that I live in.
T:Then like what is he, what does he gain from that happiness? Right, that's the other part, like, and I need him to make me happy and I need him to be happy.
Mac Da Don:And if he doesn't do something, I'm upset. This is like okay, so what you just told me was I refuse to do any more. Don't shit the moment I get in a relationship. I am not going to be the child in this relationship. You will take care of me, daddy. Like that's what I'm hearing.
M:Oh, yeah, it's, it's it's bad out here I mean again, men, but I'm gonna be appreciated. I appreciate it is key. I mean, you like to bust your ass and then you give her something. She's like I want something different.
T:You like in your mind you ain't gonna say to her, you gonna say you're the bitch, you're not hard at work and I had to sacrifice what I wanted to get this for you and you just this kind of like I think sometimes mentally we get like so bogged down and just like being Bogged down and misery, like you just miserable now and you forget, like yo, you got to actually actively go out and seek your own happiness, whatever it is that you know makes you happy. You can't like be like the negative Nancy in the space, sucking life out of the room and then just be like think that that's okay and that's normal, like you have to actively want to be happy and bring happiness to the space bring happy you can't just come to take it.
M:Oh t. That's why she's so many women in 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s will buy themselves and don't I don't know how in the by myself I don't know how, why man wouldn't want me. And if they really just turn that mirror, take off those two masks that we talked about earlier. On the first episode ever. Yeah and look at who the hell they are. Yeah they wouldn't ask yourself this question based on what you see, would you date you?
T:Yeah.
M:And, and if you said no, then you got your answer. But they don't want to do that work because that means you have to sit. Then like, oh, I got a really tear down the shit.
T:Pay attention to yourself.
M:They don't want to, because again, they're looking at why. How many times you hear this how she married and I ain't married.
T:How she got, good man, I got permanent complainers, complaining about everybody else, every other situation. You got too much stuff to talk about, jada and will shit. Now you sitting back commenting on all the shit Jada did wrong, all the shit will did right, and you still can't even worry about your damn self.
T:Oh, yeah, yeah, and that's true, and that's why I can't even learn a damn thing from the whole situation, because at least we set off the break yet. No, this example of love languages that you know. Clearly they're not the same like they, they weren't on the same page, like they couldn't see each other. We're gonna take that away from the situation. But if you at home, negative, complaining all day, every day, about everything, uh to that to this, you gonna stay right there.
M:And you're gonna while over that shit and you in aging and they gonna. And of course, if you don't get married, it's just with somebody you ain't married yet. You just in the house and he's accepting you. Cuz some guys get to a point like you know what it is, what is, I know her, I know this craziness. I know a lot of other craziness out there. I really deal with this crazy. I'm not gonna marry this crazy, but I'm gonna deal with this crazy.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, it's just another.
M:You know, yeah, and, and you know what that, what happens with that? Yeah you end up living your whole fucking life as what could have been, because some point you go like damn, I used to be 20 45, I'm still the same crazy bitch didn't marry her, never been married, got a gang of kids. But I'm still not happy.
T:One thing you can say about anything you want to say about Jada being foolish. Is a married woman like yes she, she is like she's married pretty accomplished, like highs the lows, the goods the bads, like her journey has been quite a journey, like Technically, that's what the shit is about. You better have some life experiences and then enjoy it, because clearly it's gonna be some downs, so you better have some goddamn ups along so true, and that goes back to everybody wants to be married.
M:Nobody understands. Oh, let me also say this I've been looking at some other YouTube channels and other thing and I'm looking. I'm like wait a minute, the people I'm looking at they ain't never been married. They write a couple fucking books and down their expert in Relationships and marriage bullshit, we know because we've been married for over two decades, almost three decades.
M:So we're not reading from a fucking book. We're not saying, oh, I saw a corresponding course in Relationships and marriage. We live this shit. So we tell you, we tell you from experience you, every day, you have to constantly make sure that you're Living towards whatever goal you're trying to reach in in life and you have to make sure that that person that you're helping that person get to reading it, get to as they're trying to help you. It's a team sport yeah so this war that seems to be out there. Women's men.
T:The fault of this and men is the fault of that.
M:You know y'all started it, see, and again and that goes back to some other dumps about us heard toxic masculinity.
T:There's no fucking thing called toxic toxic man, exactly, but your masculinity being toxic, it's like not masculinity is just Linnity, like exactly.
M:I mean so again when you have guys, and that goes back for not being raised or being having proper role models. Because, again, if you were raised by a bunch of women as a man, how do you actually learn how to become a man? Who is your mom gonna?
Mac Da Don:teach, you learn when you learn what a woman's idea of a man is instead of what?
Mac Da Don:Man's idea what a man is and that's the biggest issue that there's a lot of women telling men how to be men. That is literally impossible. Just like, as a guy, I cannot tell you how to be a woman, no, I can't tell you. Oh, I can see, as a mate, what I am looking for as a mate. In for each man, that Definition of what my mate needs to do changes. Some men don't give a fuck if they wife contribute. Some men just want somebody to stand next to them and look pretty. Some men want a partner. Some men want somebody who's like okay, she might not be necessarily right next to me, try to be a step ahead of me or a step behind me, but either way, financially that might be the case, but we still make sure that like we, we bridge that gap. Like, okay, she might be a little bit ahead of me and finance I might be a little bit ahead of her finances, but like no, she's, so she's over access to my bank account. Make sure she good.
Mac Da Don:Every person has a different requirement system for what they believe their mate should be. People want to then find people who they like and then slot them into what their vision of what their life should be. That is a, at least if I recall correctly. One of the issues with this would Jada willing will was was well, had an idea Of what his life should look like and then try to find somebody to buy into that idea? He just found somebody who didn't buy into the idea. Mm-hmm, jada wasn't with the vision of what he wanted to do with his life.
T:Maybe she was like 40% of the vision. Yeah, I could work with the infill in the rest. That was not present that thought that that wasn't gonna be an issue that right there.
M:Yeah what you just said. T is ultimately the fucking problem. Got relationships. Right now it's still looking at people and saying here's who you are and can I accept who you are. They say, oh, you know what Damn she looks good. I could take that and I take I could take it. Mode her. It's not, I don't.
T:I don't know. I don't know that that's what's happening. I think sometimes it's the chemistry. The chemistry knocked you off your socks.
M:Mm-hmm.
T:So drawn to them that that you, you don't err on the side of logic. Soon enough, soon enough, right by the time you put logic in place, 20 years later, and you're like I don't want to be this guy's everything, I don't want this lifestyle like what? No, this guy is a control freak. This woman doesn't cook. You don't realize this shit till it's too late, because now you got logic and now the chemistry is gone. So now you can actually see clear.
Mac Da Don:Yeah, the best part is your people.
T:Have seen that already and they have probably told you.
M:They told you. Now you like, you're in a dilemma. Yeah fuck, I've been with for 25 years and I ain't happy yeah and then you start weighing Comfortability versus the unknown.
T:Yeah, that's what really happens when you teach the toddler in a separation, that's right. Yeah, that's a satiric daughter and you some other seven year one right the average person only gonna do about shoot two months Maybe two months to two years right, most people's not really gonna go like average Joe Schmoe, right. If you financially can afford to Get about it, hey, that's separation's not Now.
M:We're not teeter-tottering for that long though we got to go, because we got to move on, because we understand this is dead end. Yeah, I'm gonna continue to sit here and the dead is never gonna change. So I need to make a move. So you make the move and get the fuck out and go find someone else that will love you. But this is a point, like I said, this case you talk about a lot of time, money, you know, yeah and that's the biggest thing is that I wanted to Touch on that before we left.
Mac Da Don:We left that idea. How long do you wait? Right, because I think that's the light issues that people get stuck because you want to say like, oh, I don't want to give up on a relationship too fast. Right, anything like damn, how long does it take for somebody to get it, whatever it is? Whether how long does it take for it to understand that, like, we Need both of us to contribute to maintain the lifestyle that she wants, or like how long does it take for him to understand that? Like, yeah, you might want to do this, but like I really don't like when this, when this happens, I wouldn't like having your friends over all the time, or whatever People say, like all away from the change, away for her to change, yeah, and then you know, we end up having this conversation of, like your 20 years deep, and you're like nigga, this ball fucking never change.
Mac Da Don:And now I done wasted this huge chunk of time Because this person never changed. But then we also say that, like divorce rates are OD 50%, frickin women running at 70% clip to get divorced Because their mates aren't for filling with a vision in the first, like two years, right. But then we also talk about relationships that are, oh man, they've been together eight years and then, like in year number eight, they finally put it all together and then they were married for another 30. So it's like when you find the time to cut bait and in realistically, a lot of people wonder and To me I'm like why you gotta figure that out for yourself how long you want to wait for somebody to make an adjustment for you that you require In order to feel like you're living a complete life.
T:I think that, first of all, most people when they separate, it's not even a proper separation. To figure that out, most people when they separate is like First experience is like anger, right, whatever the first, whatever it is that's kind of prompting you to actually get out of the house or out of the space or away from your mate, like that, probably fired up, like not, it's time to go. So the headspace is off.
T:So, anytime you exit a relationship with a headspace is just like off. Is that a prolonged separation? Right, it is it a definitely prolonged a separation, because now you're fighting, now there's friction, now we can't agree on anything. And if you can't agree on anything, you can't go to the next phase.
T:Nope and so when you say how long is the separation, you know depends on who you talking to. Some people separation was two months. Other people's separation was ten years, like Straight up, nah, mom lived upstairs, that lived downstairs, that shit went on for ten years. Some people separation was shit 18 years, didn't like her. We had that youngest kid. I didn't like him. We had our youngest child and we neither one of us was walking about at his house until her ass went to college. And it depends. Some people live, you know their lifestyle, like how they have to live, and you can, you all enter into a marriage, um, as a means to protect, you know, your empire and whatever it is, that's what's inside the empire that needs to be protected, and so that's why for all of us it's. It's just a little bit weird that she has to expose all these different elements of her marriage. Like we all get it, like, yeah, depression can't get out the damn bit, but we all get it, because if you weren't there, you know somebody who was there.
T:You sure, like we all get it, marriages ugly. It's for better or for worse. Sickness or in health, sick people Not. It's not fun being married to someone who was ill Right. It's not fun being married to someone who is an addict. For any the for worse part can get bad in the marriage very bad it can get bad.
T:Yes yes so the separation, we don't, we don't know, but we know it exists within a marriage and everybody don't need to know when you and your spouse is separated within your marriage. And so y'all are alive, ready to divorce and keep it Going. Y'all separate ways. That's your business.
M:Absolutely, and I go back to you. Being adults, a lot of people act like grown-ass kids.
T:Absolutely. That's the anger talk about.
M:Anybody didn't mad Mom, I should be mad. Nobody's saying you should be yes If he fucked around on you, if he bought back committee or some shit like that.
T:How long you gonna be mad for?
M:you gonna have to move.
T:Be mad for cuz that committee had cleared up how many days.
M:That's very true.
T:Oh Okay, but now you got wheels now. Now you good. Now he messed up the insurance, she messed up the what. How long we gonna be mad at these things for before we can real-life talk?
M:and that's the problem People can't is you get so blinded by the anger and in the distrust and all the other stuff it the logic goes off the window. That's we say okay, logic, come back because I can't live here.
T:Yeah, I'm here, but this is not what I'm supposed to live on the fence?
M:No, I gotta make a decision. Is this is the worst? Can I deal with this worse? And could I have something worse than that?
M:I don't know it could be a element that come and now I'm with some fucked up disease that I'm gonna need this person to be in my life to help me with. I didn't expect it to be that way, but it just happened to be that way. So, if I understand it's, you have to be adults in this situation. You can't act like a kid. You can be mad, yes, but that shit in this proper perspective. If you can be mad forever and you can't get over it, then in the shit.
M:Yeah but don't sit around and waddle. And you know, every time you have a fucking discussion is always bring up. And the other thing, when you, when you finally Accept, you don't bring that shit up ten years down the road.
T:Remember ten years years, every every ten days later, please come back home. And then the snap. You know how. First of all you think a female now bringing that back up. Oh, okay.
M:Oh, you will. Yeah, that's your mind, you're gonna. She's gonna say we going all, since you got a track on your phone track on your car tracker, put a goddamn I, I think, on you, cuz that's your, trust you.
Mac Da Don:But then my thing is is like I hear that all the time and I guess, just like I say, it's just because I feel like it's all nonsense if I have to go through that much work. I'm just it's not worth it. Yes, no, it's done. Actually, it's done because I've lost my piece of mind.
T:It's like, if there's no assets, we're arguing about. Your deceit. Don't prove my deceit for me, don't, don't. Don't, help me prove my life?
M:No, that's not that.
T:I'll be damned if I'm gonna go through hoops to prove your lie to you.
M:You know you lying. Oh exactly, I'll get out, yeah.
T:So let's go and wrap this whole thing up and carry on. I'm not buying no tags and putting that shit in your shoe. No, I'm not doing it.
M:Social media notice it. That's too much, no.
Mac Da Don:I know he will be follows all these women on IG and I and I just hate and like he's got photos of his ex. Like if these are issues like people for some reason I guess going relationships just don't be thinking about like shit, that you really not okay with mm-hmm. And like being honest with yourself because they say, oh, I found somebody, like they have this thing, but I can work on that. Like sometimes it's okay to say like look, you're really cool with your exes.
T:It's okay.
T:Yeah, because they might be my father girl who is poor, her exes and he's cool with his exes and they're okay with each other being cool with their exes or he got all these goddamn exes cuz he ain't never know how to get rid of his exes and Eventually is gonna bring them that he's out of or she's out of order. Whichever one's doing it cuz you know it can go both ways it's gonna bring them eventually and say, oh, I actually don't have any reason or business. Keeping in touch with my exes is dumb and disrespectful and out of order. Yeah, like some things you could just pass on.
M:And you have to because again you know we're dealing with so much just anger and confusion, and you know I'm just gonna say Just communicate, just open your mouth, and it's not about I don't want her feelings.
T:You being honest, you know she may not like, he may not like some people aren't very honest and like honest about themselves and where they're at, because you don't know. Yeah, so you might be one foot in and one foot out the door and but you don't really know which way you want to do, cuz you don't really know how you really feel that.
M:Got make a decision you have to yeah life is somebody's got make a fucking decision.
Mac Da Don:If you can make decisions and you ideally should have somebody across it who could look at this and say, yeah, no.
T:Cuz we got close to door can't have one foot in and one foot out of the door, not the whole time.
Mac Da Don:You've been together for years, you know, out of the four years, three years of first warning one out. Yeah, you know about this life.
M:Just go ahead and leave. Just leave, because you're gonna get in life, you're gonna drive in a road and you're gonna get to a fork in a road. We all do. You had to go left or you go right.
Mac Da Don:You can't just stand in the middle, no, no, no see what niggas do is they fuck around and say, alright, this is about the fork in a road, let me go and hop in the back, put on my four off-road tires and then we just go. He has to be on the bus and I'm flying left, right, mcdonald's all over the car and some more shit. But you like, I just got down the middle like I'm fine, we got it.
M:No, which I said you Decide to go in the middle. What that means you made your decision.
Mac Da Don:For you and I tell you all the time I want to make a decision.
M:You made a decision because when you made no decision, you did make one.
T:You just don't know what that end result gonna be yeah, but you have someone else to make it for you now and you don't want to do that.
M:You don't want. You don't want fate to make your decision for you, because you were too.
T:In the size of, in the size of the childish, immature kindness all that.
M:So it's just like you know.
T:People easy.
M:Yeah, yes, People you got make decisions in your life. You know we're talking about Jada. Jada is a small piece of small piece of sand in the beach of life. Everyone has to make some sort of decision about their happiness and Don't, if you were to someone you have to tear them down to make yourself feel good. Just leave them.
M:It's not worth it. There's some out there for you. First of all, you got to find out who the hell you are before you out there searching for funds, finding someone. Learn who you are, know who you are before you go out there and start to look for people, because if not, you could be.
T:I'll make Jada or will or both, I don't know what you think to oh man, yes, y'all, y'all don't beat beat Jada up too bad, y'all don't beat Jada up too bad, that's.
M:Okay.
T:She catching a hot chair right now. Yes, she was not pleased at all. What was she saying? Her video, her interviews are going very well, like the interviewers are very much so receive them, what she's saying and understanding it. But once you get to the podcast and those up YouTube reactions and all that baby, oh no, the people are not pleased yeah no keep your business For the rest of us. Keep you. Let's keep our business to ourselves.
M:Yes, keep it to yourself, talk. If y'all can't talk to each other, they go see a therapist, go to your synagogue, go to your priest, goes somebody have a conversation. But air your shit out in public is not going to be good for your marriage and in fact your marriage is probably over. At that point. You got to go outside and reach to other people.
T:I mean it's gonna take some time to work on that, because you know your marriage is not supposed to be someone else's like entertainment piece and that's what's gonna end up happening is that your personal and private affairs become someone else's entertainment piece. Now they're commenting, putting their influences on you and how you respond and react to certain things.
T:Absolutely that's totally out of order. Now you can't even think and figure out if you gonna go to the left or to the right now, because someone's influencing you To do something that you know perhaps you want to done it like that.
M:Absolutely, as always, you always end up with that clear. Vision of what people should do listen to us again, people. We tell you we, we're married, been married for a long time. So we're telling you from experience. You know, again, if y'all can't talk about it among yourselves, talk to someone else, you know. And with that, this is. We're gonna leave this episode of on the mic with the end and see listen people Subscribe to the channel.
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